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安迪·伯纳姆突袭苏格兰民族党大会,他葫芦里卖的什么药?What does Andy Burnham have up his sleeve as he crashes SNP conference?

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约翰·斯温尼与安迪·伯纳姆就苏格兰的宪制未来发生争执John Swinney and Andy Burnham have clashed over Scotland's constitutional future

安迪·伯纳姆正在闯入苏格兰民族党的大会,但他并没有靠近约翰·斯温尼在阿伯丁的党内聚会。

Andy Burnham is crashing the SNP's conference, but without going anywhere near John Swinney's party gathering in Aberdeen.

由于决定在同一时间出现在苏格兰,他注定会把一些注意力从首相转移到自己身上,作为首相。

By deciding to be in Scotland at the same time he is bound to divert some attention from the first minister to himself as prime minister.

话虽如此,伯纳姆在苏格兰民族党年度聚会之前,无意中为斯温尼做了一些政治上的好事。

Having said that, Burnham has inadvertently done Swinney a few political favours ahead of the SNP's annual get-together.

首先,在下议院有一次交流,当时首相似乎承认在另一次独立公投将是合法的情况下存在某种情形。

Firstly, there was an exchange in the Commons where the PM appeared to acknowledge circumstances in which another independence referendum would be legitimate.

此后他收回了这些言论,回到了认为该议题是“禁区”的立场——但他早些时候的言论仍被记录在议会记录中。

He has since pulled back from those comments and returned to the position that the subject is "off limits" - but his earlier remarks are still recorded on the parliamentary record.

其次,伯纳姆在工党大会上的演讲中表示,约翰·斯温尼声称自己可能成为英国最后一位首相的说法让他“下定决心要证明他错了”。

Secondly, there was Burnham's Labour conference speech where he said that John Swinney's claim that he could be the last prime minister of the UK made him "utterly determined to prove him wrong".

苏格兰民族党喜欢斯温尼正在触动伯纳姆神经的想法。毕竟,伯纳姆在利物浦的演讲中只提到了他作为当代政治对手。

The SNP likes the idea that Swinney is getting under Burnham's skin. He was after all the only contemporary political opponent the PM bothered to mention in his Liverpool address.

这种情况可能会鼓励一些苏格兰民族党成员,他们对独立进展不耐烦。

This is the sort of thing that might encourage some SNP members impatient for progress on independence.

第三,安迪·伯纳姆重新开启脱欧讨论以及在某个时候就重新加入欧盟进行公投的可能性,为苏格兰民族党提供了另一个机会。

Thirdly, the way in which Andy Burnham has reopened the Brexit conversation and the potential for a vote on rejoining the EU at some point has given the SNP another opening.

正如他们所看到的,如果伯纳姆愿意重新审视这一宪法问题,那么他继续拒绝让苏格兰选民再次就独立问题进行投票,就在逻辑上是不一致的。

As they see it, if Burnham is willing to contemplate revisiting that constitutional question, it would be inconsistent for him to keep refusing Scottish voters another chance to decide on independence.

这并不是脱欧问题的唯一维度。通过倡导与欧盟更紧密的联系,首相希望为苏格兰企业带来更好的贸易条件,并且或许能让工党对那些支持“留欧”的苏格兰人更具吸引力。

That is not the only Brexit dimension. By championing closer ties with the EU, the prime minister hopes to deliver better trading terms for Scottish businesses and perhaps make Labour more attractive to those Scots who backed "remain".

但这对苏格兰民族党也可能带来危险,因为该党一直主张独立是重新进入欧盟的最佳途径。

There could be dangers in that for the SNP, which has argued that independence is the best way back into the EU.

在此次会议上,苏格兰民族党领导层希望将辩论焦点从实现独立的过程转向实现独立的原因。为此,他们将推出一项新的运动。

At this conference, the SNP leadership wants to shift debate from the process of achieving independence to the reasons for achieving it. That's to be backed up with a new campaign.

约翰·斯温尼已邀请安迪·伯纳姆出席在阿伯丁举行的苏格兰民族党大会John Swinney has invited Andy Burnham to the SNP conference in Aberdeen

斯温尼还希望说服他的党员,他正在尽最大努力争取在2031年前举行另一次公投。

Swinney will also want to convince his party that he is working as hard as he can for another referendum by 2031.

然而,他的最大努力可能仍得不到回报,因为他需要英国政府的同意,而英国政府一直持续拒绝。

His best efforts may still go unrewarded because he requires the consent of the UK government, which has been persistently withheld.

苏格兰工党领袖迈克尔·马拉建议,斯温尼需要展示压倒性且持续的公众对独立的支持,以争取另一次公投。

The Scottish Labour leader Michael Marra has suggested Swinney needs to demonstrate overwhelming and sustained public support for independence to secure another vote.

民意调查显示,公众在苏格兰国家地位问题上意见分歧明显,且在人们正面临生活成本压力之际,另一次公投并不是首要任务。

Opinion polls suggest the public is split down the middle on the question of Scottish statehood and that another referendum is not a high priority at a time when people are struggling with the cost of living.

斯温尼倾向于认为,在地方政府中表现良好并提供更好的公共服务是增加独立诉求的最佳途径。

Swinney has tended to the view that performing well in devolved government and delivering better public services is the best route to increasing demand for independence.

但这种方法的问题在于,苏格兰民族党执政期间表现不佳的例子比比皆是。

The trouble with that approach is there are plenty of examples of underperformance by the SNP in power.

苏格兰民族党大会于周四至周六举行The SNP conference is being held from Thursday to Saturday

部长们正努力清理新冠疫情后在国家医疗服务体系中的积压事务,临时住宿中的无家可归者人数创历史新高,且与毒品相关的死亡人数出现大幅激增。

Ministers are struggling to clear the post-covid backlog in the NHS, there are record numbers of homeless people in temporary accommodation, and there's been a big spike in drug-related deaths.

这些问题均未出现在苏格兰民族党的会议议程上,议程被宪法问题所主导。

None of these problems are on the SNP's conference agenda, which is dominated by constitutional issues.

斯温尼最近与威尔士和北爱尔兰的首席部长联手——他们均为民族主义党派首次担任此职——推动宪法变革。

Swinney recently teamed up with the first ministers of Wales and Northern Ireland - all of them for the first time from nationalist parties - to push for constitutional change.

安迪·伯纳姆本周有机会作出深思熟虑的回应,此次将是他上任以来对苏格兰的首次实质性访问。

Andy Burnham has the opportunity to give a considered response this week, during what will be his first substantive visit to Scotland since taking office.

这一时机——恰逢苏格兰民族党大会——显然非偶然。看来是有目的的,如果不是挑衅的话。

The timing - coinciding with the SNP conference - is surely not an accident. It appears purposeful, if not provocative.

苏格兰民族党以幽默的方式回应,邀请伯纳姆前往阿伯丁与他们会面,以就另一次公投的法律途径达成一致。

The SNP responded with humour by inviting Burnham to join them in Aberdeen to agree a legal path to another referendum.

那不会发生。但苏格兰民族党知道,任何首相都有权力说出和做出可能轻易掩盖他们会议讨论的事情。目前尚不清楚安迪·伯纳姆是否有什么重大宣布藏在袖子里。

That is not going to happen. But the SNP know that any prime minister has the power to say and do things that could easily overshadow their conference discussions. It's not clear if Andy Burnham has any major announcements up his sleeve.

英国广播公司了解到,是否批准对玫瑰银行和乔达油气田进行石油和天然气开采的决定不太可能与他的访问时间重合。相反,首相预计将前往北兰开夏郡,讨论他将更多权力从中央政府转移到地方地区的计划。

The BBC understands decisions on whether or not to give the go ahead for oil and gas extraction from the Rosebank and Jackdaw fields are unlikely to coincide with his visit Instead, the PM is expected to be in North Lanarkshire, discussing his plans for transferring more power from central governments to local areas.

他认为,为苏格兰带来经济利益并“重新布线”英国,使其成为一个更分权的国家,可能提供一个比独立更具吸引力的替代方案。

He believes that delivering economic benefit for Scotland and "rewiring" the UK into a more decentralised state could offer an attractive alternative to independence.

地方分权是一个政策领域,苏格兰议会和威斯敏斯特政府在此有某种共同目标的空间。双方都表示愿意合作,将权力下放到城市地区和地方社区。但斯温尼警告威斯敏斯特领导人不要越界。

Local devolution is a policy area where there is scope for some common purpose between the Holyrood and Westminster governments. Both have said they are willing to work together on pushing power into city regions and local communities. But Swinney is warning the Westminster leader not to overstep.

在苏格兰民族党大会第一天,首席部长在BBC苏格兰广播的早间节目中谈到了他与新任命的首相伯纳姆在七月的会面,当时伯纳姆承诺不会“越过苏格兰议会的头顶”进行立法。

On day one of the SNP conference the FM told BBC Radio Scotland's Breakfast programme about a July meeting with the newly appointed PM in which Burnham committed to not legislating "over the heads of the Scottish Parliament".

在那次夏季聚会几个月后,斯温尼的立场依然坚定:“我打算让他[伯纳姆]遵守这一承诺,因为我认为如果他真的那样做[绕过苏格兰议会],那对首相来说将是完全不可接受的做法。”苏格兰政府正在提出对地方政府进行重大改革,同时拒绝设立大都会市长的想法,而大都会市长目前已经在英格兰的一些地区运作,如大曼彻斯特。

Months on from that summer get-together Swinney's approach remains firm: "I intend to hold him [Burnham] to that because I think if he was to do that [bypass the Scottish Parliament], well that would be a completely unacceptable approach for the PM to take." The Scottish government is proposing a major overhaul of local government while rejecting the idea of metropolitan mayors, who already operate in parts of England like Greater Manchester.

这些变化部分旨在通过削减工作岗位和官僚机构来节省开支,以帮助避免在本届议会结束时出现50亿英镑的分权公共支出缺口。

These changes are in part designed to save money by cutting jobs and bureaucracy to help avoid a £5bn gap in devolved public spending by the end of this parliament.

在苏格兰民族党大会的主要议程中,目前没有明显的时段来讨论这些计划。

There is no obvious slot on the main SNP conference agenda for these plans to be debated.

然而,就在约翰·斯温尼演讲之前的周六会议上,苏格兰绿党联合领袖吉利安·麦凯受邀参加了一场关于独立的小组讨论。

There is, however, a Saturday session just before John Swinney's speech where the Scottish Green party's co-leader Gillian MacKay has been invited to take part in a panel discussion on independence.

这可能会让一些在苏格兰民族党中不同意绿党在能源、性别和经济方面政治立场的人感到不快。

That may irritate some of those in the SNP who disagree with the Greens on the politics of energy, gender, and the economy.

苏格兰民族党领导层希望表明,他们对本党并非辩论中唯一的亲独立声音这一想法感到自在。

The SNP leadership wants to show that it is comfortable with the idea that their party does not have the only pro-independence voice in the debate.

他们还必须记住,像安迪·伯纳姆这样主张继续维持联合的人也有发言权,并且有机会影响公众舆论。

They must also remember that those like Andy Burnham, who favour continued union, also have a voice and the opportunity to influence public opinion.

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