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鲁比奥:如果没有美国支持,乌克兰将不复存在Ukraine wouldn’t exist without support from US, Rubio says

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孟买——美国国务卿马尔科·鲁比奥为特朗普政府对乌克兰的支持进行了辩护,称如果没有美国的支持,乌克兰这个国家“将不复存在”。

MUMBAI – US Secretary of State Marco Rubio defended the Trump administration’s support for Ukraine, saying the nation “would not exist” without US backing.

“如果不是美国的援助,包括特朗普政府时期的援助,现在就不会有乌克兰了,”鲁比奥10月21日在访问印度期间对记者说。“乌克兰作为一个主权国家将不复存在。”鲁比奥是在回应关于《华尔街日报》一篇报道的提问时发表上述言论的。该报道称,SpaceX首席执行官埃隆·马斯克下令最近放缓星链卫星系统的运行,而该系统帮助乌克兰抵御致命的俄罗斯空袭。

“If it were not for the assistance of the United States, including under the Trump administration, there would be no Ukraine right now,” Rubio told reporters on Oct 21 during a visit to India. “Ukraine as a sovereign state would not exist.”Rubio made the remarks while responding to questions about a Wall Street Journal report that said Elon Musk, chief executive officer of SpaceX, ordered a recent slowdown of the Starlink satellite system that helps Ukraine to fend off deadly Russian aerial assaults.

该报道援引不具名的美国及其他官员的话说,在放缓措施公开后,马斯克曾与唐纳德·特朗普总统讨论过星链的决定。

The report, citing unnamed American and other officials, said Musk discussed the Starlink decision with President Donald Trump after the slowdown became publicly known.

《华尔街日报》还报道称,一位知情人士透露,作为特朗普盟友的马斯克,在放缓措施生效前曾与政府官员讨论过星链放缓事宜。

The Journal also reported that a person familiar with the matter said Musk, a Trump ally, had talked about the Starlink slowdown with administration officials before it went into effect.

鲁比奥表示,他不知情总统是否事先知晓,并称美国无论如何都无法控制私营公司如何处置其产品。

Rubio said he wasn’t aware of any foreknowledge by the president, and said the US in any case can’t control what a private company does with its product.

“说我们以某种方式事先知情或对此进行了指示,这是不准确的,”鲁比奥在回应关于《华尔街日报》报道的提问时说。

“It’s not accurate that we somehow knew about this ahead of time or directed it in any way,” Rubio said in response to questions about the Journal report.

他表示,美国“将不再就这一话题采取守势”,同时补充说,乌克兰战士“绝对非常勇敢地”抗击了俄罗斯。

He said that the US was “no longer going to be defensive about this topic,” while adding that Ukrainian fighters have “absolutely very bravely” stood up to Russia.

乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基10月18日在接受彭博社采访时指责特朗普试图胁迫乌克兰向俄罗斯投降。

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in an interview with Bloomberg on Oct 18, accused Trump of trying to coerce his country into capitulating to Russia.

但在10月20日于奥斯陆举行的新闻发布会上,泽连斯基对与美国的关系表现得更为乐观,称他已与特朗普的特使史蒂夫·威特科夫讨论了情报共享和使用星链的问题。

But at a press conference in Oslo on Oct 20, Zelensky sounded more upbeat on relations with the US, saying he discussed intelligence sharing and access to Starlink with Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff.

泽连斯基在与同样出席会谈的挪威和芬兰领导人一同发表讲话时表示:“我们一直非常具体,该组织也非常积极。”

“We’ve been very concrete, and the organisation was very positive,” Zelensky said alongside leaders from Norway and Finland, who also attended the talks.

据俄新社报道,克里姆林宫外交政策助理尤里·乌沙科夫表示,俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京将于10月21日在圣彼得堡与威特科夫就乌克兰问题举行会谈。威特科夫于10月21日早些时候从奥斯陆抵达该市。

Russian President Vladimir Putin will hold talks with Witkoff on Ukraine in St. Petersburg on Oct 21, Kremlin foreign policy aide Yuri Ushakov said, according to the state-run Tass news service. Witkoff arrived in the city early on Oct 21 from Oslo.

挪威首相约纳斯·加尔·斯特勒对公共广播公司NRK表示,这位美国特使将于当天晚些时候返回奥斯陆。

Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Store told public broadcaster NRK that the US envoy will return to Oslo later the same day.

泽连斯基10月20日对记者表示,威特科夫此行的一个目的是为美、乌、俄三国总统的三方会谈做计划,“以解决只有领导人才能解决的问题”,包括围绕领土主张的问题。泽连斯基说:“让我们看看普京怎么说。”

Zelensky told reporters on Oct 20 that one aim of Witkoff’s trip is to plan for a trilateral meeting of the US, Ukrainian and Russian presidents “to address the issues that only the leaders can do,” including around territorial claims. “Let’s see what Putin has to say,” Zelensky said.

乌克兰总统定于10月21日亮相福克斯新闻频道的《福克斯与朋友们》节目,继续为争取美国支持基辅对抗现已进入第五个年头的俄罗斯全面入侵进行游说。

The Ukrainian president is due to appear on Oct 21 on Fox News’ Fox & Friends show as he continues to press the case for US support of Kyiv against Russia’s full-scale invasion that’s now in its fifth year.

卢比奥表示,为了试图解决这场战争,正在进行一场“非常艰难的谈判”。

Rubio said a “very difficult negotiation” is taking place to try to resolve the war.

卢比奥说,目前的会谈集中在乌克兰东部顿巴斯地区的命运上,并补充说已经提出了一些“创意的想法”来弥合分歧。

The talks now are centred around the fate of Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, Rubio said, adding that some “creative ideas” have been proposed to bridge the differences.

卢比奥说:“双方都必须同意放弃某些东西”,这些对话“很困难”。“我认为对乌克兰来说,最主要的愿望是确保他们的长期安全和保障,这样他们在未来就不会再次遭到入侵或攻击。” 彭博社

“Both sides will have to agree to give up on something” and those conversations are “difficult,” Rubio said. “I think for Ukraine, the predominant desire is to ensure their long-term security and safety, so that they’re never re-invaded or re-attacked in the future.”BLOOMBERG

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