阿隆佐·朗斯福德表示，他希望能够"与尼达尔·哈桑对视"。对于福特胡德枪击案的两名幸存者来说，近17年前企图夺走他们生命的枪手的处决将向公众直播的消息，唤起了他们复杂的情感。
Alonzo Lunsford said he wants to "lock eyes" with Nidal Hasan. For two of the survivors of the Fort Hood shooting, the news that the execution of the gunman who attempted to take their lives nearly 17 years ago will be livestreamed for the public to see has unearthed complicated emotions.
国防部长皮特·赫格塞斯周四确认，尼达尔·哈桑的处决将向公众开放并在线上直播。尼达尔·哈桑是一名前陆军精神科医生，他在2009年11月的大规模枪击事件中造成13人死亡、32人受伤。
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth confirmed Thursday that the execution of Nidal Hasan, a former army psychiatrist who killed 13 people and wounded 32 others in the November 2009 mass shooting, will be open to the public and livestreamed online.
哈桑曾将该枪击事件描述为圣战行为，他将于12月3日由八名军人执行死刑——这标志着自1961年以来的首次军事处决，也是自1945年以来的首次枪决。
Hasan, who described the shooting as an act of jihad, is scheduled to be executed on Dec. 3 by eight military service members -- marking the first military execution since 1961, as well as the first by firing squad since 1945.
阿隆佐·朗斯福德自1990年起就在陆军服役，枪击事件发生时，他是驻扎在福特胡德的军士长。哈桑向朗斯福德开火七次——包括头部和腹部——朗斯福德还目睹了哈桑杀害了他几位关系要好的同事。
Alonzo Lunsford had served in the Army since 1990, and at the time of the shooting was a sergeant stationed at Ford Hood. Hasan shot Lunsford seven times -- including in the head and in the stomach -- and Lunsford witnessed Hasan kill several colleagues that he had become good friends with.
朗斯福德于2013年退役，他告诉ABC新闻，他计划在12月参加处决，因为他希望在哈桑临终前能够"与他对视"。"我想让他能够看着我的眼睛，让他明白我不会被击败，也不可能被击败。我不再是受害者，也不再是他的受害者。我是幸存者，"朗斯福德说。
Lunsford, who retired from the Army in 2013, told ABC News he plans on attending the execution in December because he wants to "lock eyes" with Hasan while he takes his last breath. "I want him to be able to look at my eyes and to let him understand I won't be defeated, can't be defeated. I am no longer a victim, his victim. I am a survivor," Lunsford said.
朗斯福德表示，他欢迎特朗普总统周一批准推进尼达尔·哈桑处决的决定，他说他觉得自己和其他枪击案幸存者终于能够获得一些慰藉。他甚至表示，他完全同意政府选定的以枪决方式执行死刑的做法。"这就是他开枪射击我们的方式，"朗斯福德说。
Lunsford said he welcomed President Donald Trump's approval to proceed with the execution of Nidal Hasan on Monday, saying that he feels as if he and the other survivors of the shooting would finally obtain some closure. He even said that he completely agrees with the administration's selected method of carrying out the execution via firing squad. "It's how he shot us," Lunsford said.
即便如此，朗斯福德表示，他对五角大楼计划直播哈桑处决的做法仍有顾虑，并认为这种直播应仅限于幸存者和遇难者家属观看。
Even so, Lunsford says he has misgivings about the Pentagon's plan to livestream Hasan's execution, and said he believes it should only be broadcast to the survivors and the families of those who perished in the shooting.
“我不希望这被视为一场表演，就像按次付费的活动，或像去看一场篮球比赛，”他说。
"I don't want this to be viewed upon as a spectacle, like a pay-per-view event, or like going to a basketball tournament," he said.
朗斯福德表示，他认为为任何人提供处决直播的先例，与美国作为世界道德典范的责任不相符。
Lunsford said that he believes setting a precedent of livestreaming executions for anyone to watch does not align with the responsibility of the U.S. to serve as a moral example for the rest of the world.
“我们不是在试图达到某个标准——我们是在为自由世界树立一个标准，”他说。
"We're not trying to meet a standard -- we're trying to set a standard for the free world," he said.
一些共和党和民主党议员同样谴责了五角大楼关于直播处决的宣布，甚至有人将这一决定比作中东恐怖组织公开直播处决的行为。
Some Republican and Democratic lawmakers alike condemned the Pentagon's announcement about the livestreaming of the execution, with some even likening the decision to the public executions broadcast by terrorist groups in the Middle East.
“我完全支持死刑判决，但直播处决是圣战分子所做的事，”乔治亚州共和党众议员奥斯汀·斯科特（Austin Scott），众议院武装服务委员会资深成员，在X平台上写道。“美国应该比这更好。”
"I absolutely support the sentence of death, but live-streaming executions is what jihadists do," Rep. Austin Scott, R-Ga., a senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, wrote on X. "America is better than that."
与此同时，众议院武装服务委员会最高级别的民主党人亚当·史密斯（Adam Smith）表示，直播处决“是在玷污我们的法律体系。”“我们是一个民主国家，应该认真对待法治，而不是把它变成一场表演，”史密斯在一份声明中写道。
Meanwhile, Rep. Adam Smith, the highest-ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, said that livestreaming an execution "makes a mockery of our legal system." "We are a democratic country and should take the rule of law seriously, not turn it into a spectacle," Smith wrote in a statement.
达娜·弗格森·罗斯科（Dayna Ferguson Roscoe）在枪击事件发生时年仅21岁，当时她正担任陆军专业兵。她的手臂、肩膀和大腿各中一枪，她认为自己的生还归功于一种先天缺陷——该缺陷导致一颗子弹弹跳离开她的腹部，击中了她的大腿。
Dayna Ferguson Roscoe was just 21 years old at the time of the shooting, serving as a specialist in the Army. She was shot three times in her arm, her shoulder and her thigh, and credits her survival to a birth defect that caused one of the bullets to ricochet off of her stomach and into her thigh instead.
罗斯科表示，虽然她当时并未预料到处决会被直播，但她认为这延续了一种历史传统。
Roscoe said that although she did not expect that the execution would be livestreamed, she believes it follows a historical tradition.
考虑到死亡和战争历来总是通过照片和视频进行记录，这并不完全令人震惊。但我确实没想到会听到这样的消息，她对ABC新闻这样说。
"It's not completely shocking, given that death and war have historically always been documented through photographs and video. But it's just not something I expected to hear," she told ABC News.
“我其实还没真正考虑过自己是否同意所做出的决定 — — 但这并不会改变他将面临的事情，”罗斯科补充道。罗斯科在完成四年服役后退役，目前仍在安排参加执行的事宜。
"I hadn't really thought about if I agree with the decisions being made -- but it doesn't make a difference in what happens to him," Roscoe added. Roscoe, who left the Army after she finished her four-year enlistment, is still figuring out arrangements to attend the execution.
尽管哈桑曾对她造成伤害，但罗斯科告诉ABC新闻，当她回忆起枪击事件发生的那天时，她只是感到庆幸自己还活着。
Despite the pain that she endured at the hands of Hasan, Roscoe told ABC News that when she reflects on the day of the shooting, she is just thankful to be alive.
“我一生中受过的伤比纳达尔造成的更严重。有时候，你只是在他人脑中战争的附带损害，”罗斯科说。
"I've been hurt worse in life than by Nidal. Sometimes you're just the collateral damage in someone else's warfare in their own mind," Roscoe said.