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特朗普的MAGA盟友公开讨论戒严Trump's MAGA allies openly discuss martial law

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MAGA活动人士正在推动特朗普总统在他们认为中期选举被“操纵”的情况下采取非常措施 — — 包括戒严法。

MAGA activists are pushing for President Trump to resort to extraordinary measures — including martial law — if they believe the midterm elections are "rigged."

为什么重要:一些提议远远超出了特朗普的法律权限 — — 而且没有证据表明选举会被操纵。但这些人与总统关系密切。

Why it matters: Some of the proposals go far beyond Trump's legal authority — and there's no evidence that the elections will be rigged. But people in this orbit have close access to the president.

  • 知名MAGA选举活动人士蒂娜·彼得斯本月与特朗普会面。彼得斯因2024年因涉及选举设备被破坏的罪行被定罪,今年在科罗拉多州州长贾里德·波利斯(民主党)减刑后获释。

• Prominent MAGA election activist Tina Peters met with Trump this month. Convicted in 2024 of crimes tied to a breach of election equipment, Peters was released this year after Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) commuted her sentence.

  • 彼得斯及其律师彼得·蒂克廷也于六月下旬在白宫会见了特朗普。

• Peters and her attorney, Peter Ticktin, also visited Trump at the White House in late June.

  • 彼得斯未回应联系她置评的尝试。

• Peters did not respond to attempts to contact her for comment.

深入分析: 9月30日,MAGA选举活动人士在Rumble平台上进行的视频通话中,与会者警告称,他们认为将在11月出现广泛的选举安全漏洞 — — 并紧急呼吁采取补救措施。

Zoom in: On a September 30 video call for MAGA election activists streamed on Rumble, speakers warned of widespread election security breaches they believe will occur in November — and urgently pushed for remedies.

  • 特朗普的童年朋友、彼得斯的律师彼得·蒂克廷在通话中表示,“在……[另一次被操纵的选举]情况下……必须实施戒严法。”

• Ticktin, Trump's childhood friend, said on the call "there would have to be martial law in the event... [of] another rigged election."

  • 他后来对Axios表示,“他们可能需要征用选票和选举设备,以确保在事情进一步恶化之前我们能够彻底查明真相。”

• "They'll probably need to be commandeering of ballots and election equipment to make sure that we can get to the bottom of it before anything further occurs," he later told Axios.

  • 格雷戈里·斯通斯特罗姆曾在2020年就宾夕法尼亚州所谓的投票违规行为作证,他说他最希望因安全问题暂停选举。或者,他建议特朗普援引《国家紧急状态法》,迫使各州改变选举运行方式。斯通斯特罗姆未能接受置评。

• Gregory Stenstrom, who testified about alleged voting irregularities in Pennsylvania in 2020, said he most wanted the election paused over security concerns. Alternatively, he proposed Trump invoke the National Emergencies Act to force states to change how they run elections. Stenstrom could not be reached for comment.

彼得斯也参加了该通话。自八月以来,她一直在网上推广她自己的方案,该方案主张在可行的情况下改用手工标记的纸质选票,并对所有选票进行人工重新计票。

Peters was also on the call. She's been promoting her own plan online since August, which calls for switching to hand-marked paper ballots and a manual recount of all votes where feasible.

  • “她的计划是保障纸质选票并手工重新计票,” Ticktin 说。在接受科罗拉多州公共广播电台采访时,他进一步解释说,这“将消除机器可能产生的任何影响”。

• "Her plan is secure the paper ballots and recount by hand," Ticktin said. In an interview with Colorado Public Radio, he further explained this "would eliminate whatever effect the machines have." State of play:

现状:该直播通话是该活动人士社区的常规环节,吸引了来自全国各地的声音。

The streamed call is a regular feature in this activist community, drawing voices from across the country.

  • 主持人 Steve Stern 指示观众通过共和党报名成为 11 月的投票站工作人员和观察员。Stern 拒绝接受采访请求。

• Steve Stern, the host, directs his viewers to sign up through the Republican Party to become poll workers and observers for November. Stern declined an interview request. Reality check:

事实核查:“紧急权力并不是总统可以随意行动的空白支票。总统仍必须在宪法和国会制定的法律范围内行事,” 布伦南中心选举与政府项目顾问 Derek Tisler 说。

"Emergency powers are not just a blank check for the president to go do whatever they want. The president still has to act within the Constitution and within statutes set by Congress," said Derek Tisler, counsel for the Brennan Center's elections and government program.

他表示这些法律限制包括

He said those legal limits include

  • 选举时间:国会设定联邦选举日期。特朗普不能单方面推迟中期选举。

• Election timing: Congress sets the date of federal elections. Trump cannot unilaterally delay the midterms.

  • 计票和投票系统:各州自行选择投票系统并确定计票方式,但须遵守联邦法律。特朗普不能强制全国范围内的手工重新计票,也不能下令更换投票机。

• Counting and voting systems: States choose their voting systems and determine how votes are counted, subject to federal law. Trump cannot mandate a nationwide hand recount or order machines replaced.

  • 紧急状态和戒严法权限:紧急权力不允许特朗普推翻州选举法或宪法限制。戒严法也不会赋予特朗普夺取选举材料控制权或推翻联邦和州选举法律的权力。

• Emergency and martial law authority: Emergency powers do not allow Trump to override state election laws or constitutional restrictions. Martial law would not give Trump authority to seize control of election materials or override federal and state election laws.

大局观:对 2020 年选举的怀疑情绪延续到了特朗普政府,包括目前参与选举诚信工作的官员。

The big picture: Skepticism about the 2020 election extends into Trump's administration, including officials now involved in election integrity.

  • Heather Honey 最知名的是否认了宾夕法尼亚州和亚利桑那州 2020 年选举的结果,如今她是国土安全部选举诚信副助理部长,同时也是 ICE 主管的高级顾问。

• Heather Honey, most known for denying the results of the 2020 election in Pennsylvania and Arizona, is now the Homeland Security Department's deputy assistant secretary for election integrity and senior advisor to the ICE Director.

  • 白宫顾问彼得·纳瓦罗继续推广他关于 2020 年选举中存在大规模选举舞弊和违规行为的报告。

• White House adviser Peter Navarro continues to promote his own report of mass election fraud and irregularities around the 2020 election. Between the lines:

言之有物:“这次选举并非对政府来临之际才出现。他们已执政21个月。距离这次选举还有20天,他们却什么都没做,”选举创新与研究中心执行主任大卫·贝克尔说。

"This election did not sneak up on the administration. They've been in office for 21 months. We're 20 days away from this election, and they haven't done any of this stuff," said David Becker, executive director of the Center for Election Innovation & Research.

  • 白宫发言人劳伦·比斯在一份声明中对《国会山报》说:“美国人应当拥有安全、可靠、透明的选举,以确保对结果充满信心。特朗普总统认为,每一张合法选票都必须计入,每一次选举都必须受到保护,美国人必须对选举的公正性充满信心。”

• White House spokesperson Lauren Bis told Axios in a statement: "Americans deserves elections that are safe, secure, and transparent to ensure full confidence in the results. President Trump believes every legal vote must count, every election must be protected, and Americans must have complete confidence in the integrity of our elections."