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马斯克:金钱或将变得“无关紧要”,后代财富或仅剩“极小一部分”Elon Musk says money could become 'irrelevant,' descendants may be 'tiny fraction' as wealthy

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埃隆·马斯克表示,总有一天金钱可能变得毫无意义,他绝大部分财富很可能在几代人之内消失殆尽。世界首富预测,机器人和太空旅行的进步将创造一个多行星经济体,届时“金钱将变得无关紧要”,“传统货币将不再重要”。价值将以质量和动力或能量来衡量,他继续说道。“所以这是我的猜测,”他说,并补充说,在他看来,这似乎是一个“相当明显”的结果。

Elon Musk says money could be meaningless one day, and the vast majority of his wealth will likely be gone within a few generations. The world's richest person predicted that advances in robotics and space travel will create a multiplanetary economy, at which point "money becomes irrelevant" and "conventional currency will not matter." Value will be measured in mass and power or energy, he continued. "So that's my guess," he said, adding that it seemed a "pretty obvious" outcome to him.

特斯拉和SpaceX首席执行官在《建造者》播客节目中,向他的传记作者沃尔特·艾萨克森分享了他对后金钱未来的愿景以及对个人财富的看法。该访谈录制于8月初,周二发布。马斯克今年早些时候曾建议人们停止为10年或20年后的退休储蓄,因为他预计人工智能和其他技术将大幅提高生产力,开启一个丰裕时代,届时人们可以拥有“他们想要的任何东西”。

The Tesla and SpaceX CEO shared his vision of a post-money future and his outlook on his personal fortune with his biographer, Walter Isaacson, on "The Builders" podcast. The interview was taped in early August and released on Tuesday. Musk recommended earlier this year that people stop saving for retirement in 10 or 20 years, as he expects AI and other technologies to supercharge productivity and usher in an age of abundance where people can have "whatever stuff they want."

他向艾萨克森提出了类似的观点,称“人类没有任何事情能做得比人工智能和机器人更好”。他说,人们很可能会转向种植水果蔬菜或创作艺术等爱好,以在生活中寻找目标。马斯克在SpaceX于6月上市后曾短暂成为万亿富翁,周一收盘时以约9200亿美元的净资产登顶彭博亿万富翁指数。他在播客节目中为自己的个人财富辩护,称这主要反映了他对SpaceX和特斯拉的所有权,他需要在这两家公司中持有大量股份,以保留投票权并继续掌控公司。

He made a similar argument to Isaacson, saying "there won't be anything that humans can do that the AI and the robots can't do better." People will likely turn to hobbies like growing their own fruits and vegetables, or making art, to find purpose in life, he said. Musk, who briefly became a trillionaire after SpaceX went public in June, topped the Bloomberg Billionaire Index at Monday's close with an estimated $920 billion net worth. He defended his personal wealth on the podcast, saying that it mostly reflects his ownership of SpaceX and Tesla, and he needs large stakes in both companies to retain voting power and remain in charge.

“我的财富将会被大幅征税,”马斯克说道,并补充说“并没有什么神奇的方法可以逃避税收”——因为“如果有的话,我早就知道了。”他表示自己的财富将会逐渐减少;几代人之后(如果金钱仍然重要的话,不过我认为金钱已经不再重要了),他的后代所拥有的财富将只是他现在所拥有的一小部分。他还详细说明了希望自己的基金会在他去世后如何使用他的财富:“继续实现那些目标,让人类能够生活在多个星球上,将人类的意识扩展到星辰之外,同时改善地球上的可持续能源系统。”

His fortune is "going to be taxed quite heavily," Musk said, adding that there isn't "some magical way to avoid taxes" because "if there were, I would know about it." Musk said his wealth will "get whittled down and a few generations from now — if money still matters, which I don't think it will — my descendants would have a tiny fraction of what I have." He also outlined what he hopes his foundation will spend his fortune on after he's gone: "Continue the goals. Make life multi-planetary, extend consciousness to the stars, improve sustainable energy on Earth."

值得注意的是,马斯克在周一承诺明年会将SpaceX的一部分资产捐赠给美国的每个孩子,这笔捐赠的金额相当于今天的100多亿美元。他的这一声明赢得了唐纳德·特朗普总统的赞扬,特朗普在X平台上称赞马斯克的“慷慨之举”,并称他为“传奇人物”。早在7月底,诺贝尔经济学奖得主达龙·阿西莫格鲁公开质疑马斯克关于未来金钱将不再重要的预测时,马斯克就曾暗示自己会做出慈善捐赠。

Notably, Musk pledged on Monday to gift a share of SpaceX to every child in the US next year, a contribution worth over $10 billion today. His announcement has won praise from President Donald Trump, who hailed Musk's "incredible generosity" and labeled him a "legendary friend" in an X post. Musk teased a charitable pledge in late July after Nobel economist Daron Acemoglu publicly challenged him over his prediction of a post-money future.

阿西莫格鲁在X平台上写道:“如果到2036年金钱真的不再重要了,那你为什么不承诺在2036年之前将自己目前约1万亿美元的财富全部捐赠给慈善机构呢?”马斯克回应道:“我确实打算这么做!”

"If money won't matter in 2036, why don't you pledge to donate your current wealth of approximately $1 trillion to charity no later than 2036," Acemoglu wrote on X. "I am actually going to do something along these lines!" Musk responded.

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