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卡里尼昂:火势迅速蔓延是温赖特基地致命火灾造成伤亡的主因Rapid spread of fire was main factor in CFB Wainwright deaths, injuries: Carignan

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珍妮·卡里尼昂将军表示,军方将审视“许多方面”,以设法确定如何防止再次发生像温赖特军事基地火灾这样的悲剧。(约翰·乌兰/加拿大通讯社)Gen. Jennie Carignan says the military will be examining 'a lot of things' as it works to determine how to prevent another tragedy like the CFB Wainwright fire. (John Ulan/The Canadian Press)

军方最高指挥官认为,士兵无法逃离加拿大温赖特基地(CFB Wainwright)致命大火的主要原因,是大火在训练区蔓延的速度太快。

The military's top commander believes the main reason soldiers couldn't escape the deadly fire at CFB Wainwright is because of how quickly it tore across the training area.

当被问及士兵逃离大火面临什么障碍时,国防参谋长珍妮·卡里尼昂将军(Gen. Jennie Carignan)表示,大火蔓延得太快了。

Asked what barrier soldiers faced getting away from the fire, Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Jennie Carignan suggested it spread too fast.

卡里尼昂在周日早上播出的加拿大广播公司(CBC)采访中说:“所以我认为,这主要是因为大火蔓延的速度太快。”

"So I think, this is mostly due to how fast the fire travelled," Carignan said in an interview on CBC's airing Sunday morning.

卡里尼昂说,调查人员目前正在重建不同时刻的现场情况,这“将揭示事情究竟是如何发生的。” 致命大火后,温赖特基地训练“无需立即改变”:国防参谋长 多项调查正在进行中,试图查明周六在阿尔伯塔省东部温赖特基地发生的大火为何导致四名士兵死亡、39人受伤。调查人员正试图弄清大火的确切起因,以及为何训练被允许持续数小时。

Carignan said investigators are now working on reconstructing the scene at different moments which is "going to reveal how it all happened." 'Immediate changes' not needed for training at CFB Wainwright following deadly fire: CDS Multiple investigations are underway to try and get to the bottom of why four soldiers were killed and 39 more injured on Saturday's fire at CFB Wainwright in eastern Alberta. Investigators are trying to find out what exactly caused the fire and why training was allowed to continue for hours.

军方官员表示,大火起因于附近一处自动榴弹发射器射击场的训练,但该区域对消防员来说太危险,无法进入。官员称,在大火被监控期间,风势增强,火势迅速蔓延至士兵训练的地点。

Military officials have said the fire started because of training on an automatic grenade launcher range nearby, but the area was too dangerous for firefighters to enter. While the fire was being monitored, winds picked up and it quickly spread to where soldiers were training, officials said.

卡里尼昂拒绝透露大火蔓延至士兵所在位置时,消防员是否已在训练区或正在赶往途中,理由是调查将提供更多清晰信息。

Carignan wouldn't say if firefighters were already at the training area or on their way when the fire reached the soldiers, citing that the investigation would provide more clarity.

卡里尼昂告诉代理主持人大卫·科曼(David Common):“我们的地面人员在消防员应对火灾本身时,确实设法完成了伤员撤离工作。”

"Our personnel on the ground did manage the casualty evacuations as the firefighters were dealing with the fire itself," Carignan told guest host David Common.

基地训练已恢复。卡里尼昂表示,目前他们尚未更改任何程序,但如果调查发现问题,将会进行更改。

Training has resumed at the base. Carignan said at this point they haven't changed any procedures, but will if the investigations flag issues.

卡里尼昂说:“目前,我们没有任何迹象表明需要立即做出改变。”

"For the moment, we have nothing that indicates that we need to make immediate changes," Carignan said.

加拿大军队宪兵司令、准将瓦妮莎·汉拉汉周四在新闻发布会上表示,大火发生在一个“永久危险区”。该指定意味着由于实弹演习带来的持续隐患,该区域始终是禁区。未爆炸的手榴弹或其他军用弹药可能散落在地面上,一旦受到干扰就会爆炸。

The Canadian Forces Provost Marshal, Brig.-Gen. Vanessa Hanrahan, said at a news conference on Thursday the fire broke out in a "permanent danger zone." That designation means the area is always a no-go-zone because of ongoing hazards from live-fire exercises. Undetonated grenades or other ordinates could be on the ground and blow up if disturbed.

军方称,威尼赖特基地大火始于自动榴弹发射器射击场。汉拉汉表示,基地的消防站和射击场管控部门——负责在实弹射击场执行安全标准的部门——“全天”都在监控火情。但随后风力增强,火势变得更加猛烈并蔓延开来,她补充道。

CFB Wainwright fire began on automatic grenade launcher range, military says The base's fire hall and range control — those responsible for enforcing safety standards across live-fire ranges — were monitoring the fire "throughout the day," Hanrahan said. But then when the wind got stronger, the fire got more intense and spread, she said.

军方表示,大火蔓延至加拿大公主帕特里夏轻步兵团第3营C连正在进行实弹训练的区域,该连队正在为今年春季部署拉脱维亚做准备。

The fire moved to where C company of the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI), was doing live-fire training to prepare to deploy to Latvia this spring, the military said.

当被问及指挥官是否面临在特定时间内完成此次训练的压力时,卡里尼昂表示,“很多因素都将被纳入”调查考量。

Asked if there was pressure for commanders to get this training done within a certain amount of time, Carignan said "a lot of things are going to be considered" as part of the investigation.

但她表示,距离春季部署还有“相当充裕的时间”,指挥官有灵活性“根据天气等诸多因素重新安排或调整进度”。退役少校罗伯特·帕伦特曾任该轻步兵团步兵军官,并曾担任一起士兵死亡事件调查委员会的主席。他表示,事后看来,任何事故都本可避免。

But she said there is a "considerable amount of time" before the spring deployment and leaders have the flexibility to "rearrange or reschedule depending on weather, depending on a lot of factors." Retired major Robert Parent was a PPCLI infantry officer and president of a past board of inquiry into a soldier's death. He said that, in retrospect, any incident could be prevented.

“我绝不认为应该以任何方式进行猎巫式追责,”帕伦特对加拿大广播公司新闻表示。

"I do not believe that in any way there should be a witch hunt conducted," Parent told CBC News.

“但现实是,这一过程中的任何一个决策,在任何时间点做出不同选择,都本可避免最终的悲剧结局。这就是现实。”帕伦特表示,他在34年军旅生涯中曾在威尼赖特基地服役三年,包括参与和组织训练演习。他称自己拥有丰富的组织、规划和监督实弹训练经验,包括担任过射击场安全官。

"But the reality is that one decision at any time during this process would have avoided the final and tragic outcome. That's just reality." Parent said he spent three years at CFB Wainwright during his 34-year career, including participating in and running training exercises. He said he has extensive experience organizing, planning and supervising live-fire training including as a range safety officer.

士兵们明白,这份工作本身就存在固有的风险和危险——无论是来自武器、自然环境、装甲车辆训练还是跳伞,帕伦特说。

Soldiers understand that there are inherent risks and dangers of the job — whether it's from weapons, the elements, training with armoured vehicles or jumping out of airplanes, Parent said.

但在训练的背景下,“我们有系统和流程来降低这种风险,”他说。

But in the context of training, "we have systems and processes that mitigate that risk," he said.

致命的韦恩赖特军事基地大火为何迅速变得如此危险 “没有人会带着可能会失去一名士兵的理解去执行训练任务。……这不是运作的方式。”帕伦特说,事发当天韦恩赖特军事基地天气干燥,收到了天气预警,且有一场正在燃烧的大火。调查人员将审视这三个因素是如何汇聚在一起酿成这起事故的,以及现场做出了哪些决定,他说。

How the deadly CFB Wainwright fire got so dangerous, so fast "No one goes out on a training exercise with the understanding that we may lose a soldier.… That's not the way it works." Parent said there were dry conditions that day at CFB Wainwright, a weather warning coming in and an active fire. Investigators will look at how all three of these elements came together to create this incident and what decisions were made on the ground, he said.

“为什么这些信息没有汇总到一起,以便指挥链能够根据大火、天气事件和地面状况可能决定的风险程度,做出适当的决定?”他说。

"Why wasn't the information not brought together so that the chain of command could have made an appropriate decision with relation to the degree of risk that the fire, the weather event and the conditions on the ground may have dictated?" he said.

帕伦特曾在2014年皮克瓦瓦军事基地军事技术员凯尔·辛克莱尔死亡事件的调查委员会中担任最高级别职务。

Parent held the most senior role on the board of inquiry into military technician Kyle Sinclair's death in 2014 at CFB Petawawa.

他说,针对韦恩赖特军事基地发生的事情的调查委员会不会认定指挥链是否犯错,也不会归咎责任。

He said a board of inquiry into what happened at CFB Wainwright will not say if the chain of command made mistakes or cast blame.

相反,该调查委员会的任务是指出系统中的薄弱环节和流程,提出建议以防止同类事件再次发生。

Instead, that inquiry's job is to flag weak points and processes in the system to make recommendations to prevent the same incident from happening again.

帕伦特说,调查委员会可能要过一年多才会开始工作,因为军事警察调查和民间验尸官调查会先完成,以便调查委员会能够审阅那些报告。

Parent said the inquiry might not start for more than a year because the military police investigation and civilian coroner's investigation are completed first so the board can look at those reports.

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