
特朗普总统本周就通货膨胀问题发表了一系列不实言论。CNN News Central的约翰·伯曼(John Berman)就此向CNN资深记者丹尼尔·戴尔(Daniel Dale)求证了相关事实。
President Trump made a series of false claims about inflation this week. CNN News Central's John Berman gets a fact-check from CNN Senior Reporter Daniel Dale.
最新数据显示:批发价格指数已飙升至四年多来的最高水平;消费者价格指数的涨幅也远超预期。然而,随着中期选举的临近,特朗普总统仍在不断发表关于通货膨胀的虚假言论。过去三个月的通货膨胀率为1.7%——这个数字实在令人震惊。
RESTORATION. >> WHOLESALE INFLATION HAS NOW SURGED TO AS HIGHEST LEVEL IN MORE THAN FOUR YEARS. DATA ON CONSUMER PRICES ALSO CAME IN MUCH HOTTER THAN EXPECTED. YET PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN MAKING SEVERAL FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT INFLATION AS THE MIDTERMS APPROACH. >> 1.7 INFLATION IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS. THINK OF THAT 1.7.
他声称有真正的通货膨胀。他声称通货膨胀率高达19%,19%!我们继承了历史上最严重的通货膨胀。好好想想吧。而现在,过去三个月的通货膨胀率是1.7%。我们已经把它降到了他当年19%的水平。他给出的真实数据是19%。>> 好的。我们直接进入CNN的环节。有请事实核查员兼首席编辑丹尼尔·戴尔。丹尼尔,很高兴见到你。
HE HAD REAL INFLATION. HE HAD REAL INFLATION OF 19%, 19%. WE INHERITED THE WORST INFLATION IN HISTORY. THINK OF IT. AND NOW THE LAST THREE MONTHS WE HAVE 1.7. WE HAVE IT DOWN TO WHAT HE HAD 19%. HIS REAL NUMBERS 19%. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GET RIGHT TO CNN. FACT CHECKER AND CHIEF DANIEL DALE. DANIEL, GREAT TO SEE YOU. 1.7 INFLATION. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN THE GOVERNMENT REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING OUT. >> JOHN, THE PRESIDENT'S NUMBERS DO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
1.7%的通货膨胀率?我在政府发布的报告中从未见过这样的数据。>> 约翰,总统给出的数据完全不合逻辑。过去三个月,我们的通货膨胀率从未接近过1.7%。7月份是3.4%,8月份是3.4%,到了9月份甚至达到了3.7%。至于他引用的所谓“拜登19%”的数据,我无从知晓。他没有解释,白宫也没有解释。我反复追问过,但我有一个推测:2022年,特朗普在一次演讲中照着稿子念,提到了通货膨胀,但随后又说:“我不是认为它会是这个数字的两倍。”
WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 1.7 INFLATION IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS. WE HAD 3.4% IN JULY, 3.4% IN AUGUST, UP TO 3.7% IN SEPTEMBER. NOW, AS FOR WHERE HE GOT THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, 19% FOR BIDEN, I DO NOT KNOW. HE DIDN'T EXPLAIN. THE WHITE HOUSE WOULDN'T EXPLAIN. WHEN I REPEATEDLY ASKED, BUT I DO HAVE A THEORY IN 2022, IN A SPEECH TRUMP READ FROM A SCRIPT WHEN HE INFLATION BUT THEN HE SAID, IT'S NOT THAT I BELIEVE IT'S DOUBLE THAT. SO IF YOU 99.1, YOU GET PRETTY CLOSE TO 19. VOILA.
所以,如果你把99.1%翻倍,就几乎接近19%了。瞧,这样就能说得通了。当然,你不可能因为自己觉得合适,就把经济数据翻倍。拜登时期的通货膨胀确实在2022年6月达到9.1%的峰值,但随后在拜登任期的最后两年半里急剧下降,到2025年1月——也就是特朗普重返白宫的那个月——已经降至3.0%。我必须再次强调,我甚至不确定特朗普引用“1.7”和“19”时到底指的是什么,白宫也没有给我任何答案。
OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T DOUBLE ECONOMIC NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE IT. SO BIDEN ERA INFLATION DID PEAK AT 9.1% JUNE 2022, BUT THEN IT FELL SHARPLY OVER THE REMAINING TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF BIDEN'S TERM, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 3.0% IN JANUARY OF 2025, THE MONTH TRUMP RETURNED TO OFFICE. NOW, I AGAIN HAVE TO EMPHASIZE, I CAN'T BE CERTAIN WHAT TRUMP WAS EVEN REFERRING TO WITH THIS QUOTE, UNQUOTE, 1.7, THIS QUOTE, UNQUOTE 19, THE WHITE HOUSE WOULDN'T GIVE ME ANY ANSWERS. SO ON CNN.COM, I WROTE AN ARTICLE WALKING PEOPLE THROUGH THE OTHER POSSIBILITIES AS WELL.
因此,我在CNN.com上写了一篇文章,向读者介绍了其他可能的解释。比如,他或许是在说累计通货膨胀,或者核心通货膨胀。但关键在于,无论他指的是什么,无论是那些同比数据……
LIKE MAYBE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT CUMULATIVE INFLATION. MAYBE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT CORE INFLATION. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS NO MATTER WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT WAS THOSE YEAR OVER YEAR RATES WE