前奥巴马政府幕僚、主持播客节目《Pod Save America》的主持人就密歇根州联邦参议员候选人阿卜杜勒·埃尔-赛义德（Abdul El-Sayed）处理近期关于其家族涉嫌与“穆斯林兄弟会”有关联的提问一事展开了辩论。
Former Obama staffers who host the "Pod Save America" podcast debated Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed’s handling of a recent question about his family’s alleged ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
虽然汤米·维托尔（Tommy Vietor）及其联合主持人对埃尔-赛义德表示同情，认为这些提问带有“偏见”，但乔恩·法夫罗（Jon Favreau）警告说，埃尔-赛义德必须记住，他的受众不仅是提问者，还包括可能对“穆斯林兄弟会”本身存有顾虑的选民。
While Tommy Vietor and his co-hosts sympathized with El-Sayed over questions they considered "bigoted," Jon Favreau warned that El-Sayed must keep in mind that he is speaking not just to the questioner, but also to voters who may be concerned about the Muslim Brotherhood itself.
《华盛顿自由灯塔报》（Washington Free Beacon）报道了埃尔-赛义德同母异父的妹妹埃曼·阿卜杜勒哈迪（Eman Abdelhadi）在社交媒体上的帖子，文中描述了她家族与该组织的渊源，包括她和埃尔-赛义德的母亲，随后外界开始关注埃尔-赛义德家族涉嫌与“穆斯林兄弟会”有关联的问题。
Concerns about alleged ties between El-Sayed's family and the Muslim Brotherhood emerged after the Washington Free Beacon reported on social media posts in which El-Sayed's half-sister, Eman Abdelhadi, described her family's history with the organization, including her and El-Sayed's mother.
在10月17日的一场市政厅会议上，当一名观众询问他是否会与“穆斯林兄弟会”划清界限时，埃尔-赛义德表现出不悦。在与该组织划清界限后，他将审视的目光投回给提问者，说道：“你之所以问这个问题，是因为你隐含地假设我会有双重忠诚，对吧？你假设我不会划清界限，或者我会有某种高于宪法的忠诚，对吗？汤米，这就是你的暗示吗？”法夫罗批评共和党试图通过家族关系将埃尔-赛义德与该组织联系起来，但认为共和党正利用这一议题来影响选民。
At an October 17 town hall, El-Sayed bristled when an audience member asked whether he would disavow the Muslim Brotherhood. After disavowing the organization, El-Sayed turned the scrutiny back on the audience member, saying, "You’re asking the question because implicitly, you assume that I’ll have dual loyalties, right? You assume that I wouldn’t disavow, or that I'll have some higher order allegiance than to the Constitution, correct? Tommy, is that what you imply?" Favreau criticized Republican attempts to tie El-Sayed to the organization through his family connections, but argued that the GOP was using the issue to sway voters.
“他们抛出‘穆斯林兄弟会’这张牌稍微聪明一些，因为这就像是在说：‘这是一个新的信息点，人们可能完全不知道穆斯林兄弟会是什么，’”他说，似乎在描绘共和党操盘手的战术心态。“‘听起来挺吓人的，对吧？’‘恐怖组织。’‘也许你不了解穆斯林兄弟会的历史。’‘也许它跟埃及有外国渊源，而他，你知道，他家人、他家人来自埃及。’”
"It's somewhat smarter for them to throw out the Muslim Brotherhood thing because it's like, ‘This is a new piece of information that people might have no idea what the Muslim Brotherhood is,’" he said, appearing to frame the tactical mindset of Republican operatives.
“所以，要回应这一点，照实回应——当然，他确实把它驳倒了。但你得忘掉那个问你问题的混蛋，”法夫罗继续说道。“你得把答案给得像是在回答一个可能对穆斯林兄弟会关系存疑的人，这个人不一定完全是伊斯兰恐惧症患者，也不一定像那个孩子、像特朗普、像迈克·罗杰斯，而只是可能有个疑问，而且你不想——你不想居高临下地对待那个人，或者像说：‘不，你问这个问题就是个混蛋。’对吧？”
"'Sounds pretty scary, doesn't it?' 'Terrorist organization.' 'Maybe you don't know the history of the Muslim Brotherhood.' 'Maybe it's got foreign ties to Egypt and he, you know, his family, his family's from Egypt.'"
“我不是说他那样做了，”他补充道。“我觉得挺好——我觉得他回答时本可以少用 20% 的居高临下态度。”
"So, to respond to that, as bulls — as it is, and of course, he like knocked it down. But you've got to forget about the a--hole asking you the question," Favreau continued. "You've got to give the answer as if someone who might have a question about a Muslim Brotherhood tie is not necessarily like totally Islamophobic and like that kid or like Trump or like Mike Rogers, but like might have a question, and you don't want — and you don't want to condescend to that person or be like, ‘No, you're an a--hole for asking.’Right?"
维托同意埃尔-赛义德的语气本可以更好，并回应道：“有一个稍微更有同理心的版本。”
"And I'm not saying he did," he added. "I thought it was a good — I thought he could have used like 20% less condescension in the answer."
另一位联合主持人乔恩·洛维特说：“别跟那家伙较劲了，要对着那些不较劲的人说话。”法夫罗回忆了他为前总统贝拉克·奥巴马工作的经历，表示无论对候选人言论的描述是否公平，候选人和公职人员在对选民说话时都必须注意措辞和语气。
Vietor agreed that El-Sayed’s tone could have been better, and replied, "There’s a slightly more empathetic version of that."
“你可以在便宜座位上这么说，因为我确信当你是阿卜杜勒，四处奔波做这事，而有人他妈的质疑你对深爱的国家的忠诚时，这肯定他妈的让你暴怒，”法夫罗说。“而他不得不做出的回应却是忍气吞声，只是挤出笑容给个漂亮回答，这不公平。”
Fellow co-host Jon Lovett said, "Stop fighting with that guy and speak to the people that are not." Favreau recalled his experience working for former President Barack Obama and said that, regardless of whether a characterization of a candidate's statements is fair, candidates and public officials have to be careful about rhetoric and tone when speaking to voters.
“但就像我们在场见证奥巴马不得不这么做一样，你知道佐赫兰·马姆达尼也得这么做，不幸的是，存在双重标准，这不公平，但你为了赢得选举还是得这么做，这他妈的真糟，”他补充道。
"You can say this from the cheap seats because I am sure when you are Abdul, and you're going around doing this and there are people who are f---ing just calling into question your loyalty to your country that you love, it must f---ing infuriate you," Favreau said. "And it's not fair that what he has to do in response is to eat s--- and just give a nice answer with a smile." "But like we were there when Barack Obama had to do it, and you know Zohran Mamdani had to do it and like, unfortunately, there's a double standard, and it's unfair, but you still have to do it to win an election anyway and it f---ing sucks," he added.
福克斯新闻数字频道联系了埃尔-赛义德的竞选团队置评，但未立即收到回复。
Fox News Digital reached out to El-Sayed's campaign for comment but did not immediately receive a response.
曼哈顿研究所对外事务副总裁、曾关注密歇根州参议院竞选的前民调专家杰西·阿姆认为，埃尔-赛义德的对抗性举止可能是他在对阵共和党对手时表现不如该州民主党州长候选人那样好的关键原因。
Jesse Arm, vice president of external affairs at the Manhattan Institute and a former pollster who has followed the Michigan Senate race, suggested El-Sayed's confrontational demeanor may be a key reason he is not doing as well against his Republican opponent as the Democratic gubernatorial nominee is doing in her race in Michigan.
“‘不存美国’那些家伙是党派打手，他们竭力为埃尔-赛义德的激进主义开脱，将合理的审视斥为偏见。但即便他们也意识到，他的恶劣和居高临下极其令人反感，”阿姆告诉福克斯新闻数字频道。
"The ‘Pod Save America’ guys are partisan hacks who bend over backward to excuse El-Sayed’s radicalism and dismiss legitimate scrutiny as bigotry. But even they recognize that his nastiness and condescension are deeply off-putting," Arm told Fox News Digital.
“即便他最同情的捍卫者都看得出来，想想他会在普通密歇根选民眼中显得怎样，”他补充道。“这是他有望大幅跑输该州民主党州长候选人的一个重要原因。”
"And if even his most sympathetic defenders can see it, imagine how he comes across to ordinary Michigan voters," he added. "This is a big part of the reason he’s poised to dramatically underperform the state’s Democratic gubernatorial nominee."