
民主党在中期选举中取得压倒性胜利后,参议员当选人阿卜杜勒·埃尔赛德告诉MS NOW,他准备就选民关心的问题与唐纳德·特朗普总统及华盛顿的共和党人合作,敦促其党专注于治理,而非寻求对总统的报复。
After Democrats’ sweeping midterm victory, Sen.-elect Abdul El-Sayed told MS NOW he was prepared to work with President Donald Trump and Republicans in Washington on issues that matter to voters, urging his party to focus on governing instead of seeking revenge against the president.
“我认为人们把我们的政治看作是一场游戏,你要对另一方进行报复。这不是关于报复。这绝不应该是关于报复,”埃尔赛德周四在MS NOW的《早安乔》节目中表示。“这是关于执行法治,最重要的是,为美国公众办实事。”
“I think people see our politics as this game where you get retribution on the other side. It’s not about retribution. It should never be about retribution,” El-Sayed told MS NOW’s “Morning Joe” on Thursday. “It’s about enforcing the rule of law and, most importantly, delivering for the American public.”
他还表示,周二民主党在全国各地取得的重大胜利表明,特朗普是可以被挑战的。“我认为人们一直把唐纳德·特朗普看作是一个不可战胜的大怪物,”他说。“结果发现,你只需站出来与他对抗,他就能看清形势。”埃尔赛德的评论是在特朗普告诉《纽约时报》,他愿意“与民主党合作”,因为民主党将于1月控制国会两院之后发表的。
He also suggested Democrats’ major victories across the country on Tuesday showed that Trump could be challenged. “I think people have always seen Donald Trump as this big monster that’s unbeatable,” he said. “It turns out you just stand up to him, and he can read the tea leaves.”El-Sayed’s comments came after Trump told The New York Times he was willing to “work with Democrats” as they prepare to take control of both chambers of Congress in January.
“如果[特朗普]有兴趣将金钱排除在政治之外,把钱放进人们口袋,并通过全民医保,那就是我参选要做的事,我期待与任何愿意这样做的人合作,”埃尔赛德说。
“If [Trump’s] interested in getting money out of politics, putting money in pockets and passing Medicare for all, that’s what I ran to do, and I’m looking forward to working with anyone who is willing to do that,” El-Sayed said.
即使民主党将掌控国会,埃尔赛德表示,总统仍拥有“巨大权力”。
Even with Democrats set to take control of Congress, El-Sayed said the president still had “substantial power.”
“他是美国总统,”他说。“我将成为一名美国参议员,如果他有兴趣处理我想处理的问题——让更多人获得医疗保健、取消医疗保险削减、结束这场愚蠢的战争、停止与加拿大之间这些愚蠢的关税——那么让我们谈谈这样做,并为公众交出成果。”埃尔赛德表示,他跨党派合作的意愿也延伸到未来的共和党同事,包括那些在竞选期间攻击他的人,如得克萨斯州参议员泰德·克鲁兹,他曾称他为“圣战侏儒”,并试图将他与穆斯林兄弟会联系起来。
“He is the president of the United States,” he said. “I’m going to be one United States senator, and if he’s interested in working on issues that I want to work on — getting more people healthcare, ending the Medicare cuts, ending the stupid war, stopping these stupid tariffs with Canada — then let’s talk about doing that and go and deliver for the public.”El-Sayed said his willingness to work across party lines extends to his future Republican colleagues, including those who attacked him during the campaign, like Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who called him a “jihadist leprechaun” and sought to tie him to the Muslim Brotherhood.
“泰德·克鲁兹说了些可怕的话。我会和泰德·克鲁兹坐下来,如果他有一项从政治中剔除资金、让人民口袋里有钱、实现全民医保的法案,我会和他合作。只要他愿意真诚地这么做,”埃尔赛德说。
“Ted Cruz said some awful things. I will sit down with Ted Cruz, and if he’s got a bill that makes sense to get money out of politics, put money in pockets, pass Medicare for all, I’ll work with him on it. So long as he’s willing to do it in good faith,” El-Sayed said.
但这位未来的参议员表示,他认为与公众的对话比参议院内的私下谈判更具意义。“我能进行的更有力的对话,不仅仅是在休息室里与另一位参议员交谈,而是与公众交谈,让公众与他们的参议员进行对话,”他对MS NOW表示。
But the future senator said he saw conversations with the public as more consequential than private negotiations in the Senate. “The more powerful conversation I can have isn’t just with another senator in a cloakroom. It’s with the public, so that public is having a conversation with their senator,” he told MS NOW.
埃尔赛德表示,民主党在努力将竞选承诺转化为立法的同时,仍需不断向选民阐释自己的立场。
El-Sayed said Democrats would need to keep making their case to voters as they work to turn campaign promises into legislation.
“而且我认为,有时我们会把竞选模式与治理模式分开考虑,而作为民主党人,我们的一部分问题在于,我们不太擅长走出去展示我们的工作。在政治中,你必须展示你的工作。仅仅说‘相信我的解决方案’是不够的,而是说,‘嘿,这就是原因,这就是内容。’”“我们将继续就我们想要推动的问题进行竞选,然后在周一到周四之间回到休息室,想办法将其锤炼成立法,”埃尔赛德补充道。
“And I think sometimes we think about campaign mode versus governing mode, and part of the problem as Democrats is that we’re not very good at going out there and showing our work. In politics, you have to show your work. It’s not just enough to be like, ‘Trust me on the solution.’ It’s saying, ‘Hey, here’s why, here’s what.’”“We’re going to keep campaigning on the issues we want to push, and then get back to the cloakroom between Monday and Thursday, and figure out how to hammer that into legislation,” El-Sayed added.