在接受《Talking Europe》采访时，欧盟前最高外交官何塞普·博雷尔对美国中期选举中民主党人的胜利作出回应，警告称美国总统唐纳德·特朗普仍然是“对世界非常危险的人”。
In an interview with Talking Europe, the EU's former top diplomat Josep Borrell reacts to the Democrats' victory in the US midterm elections, warning that US President Donald Trump is still "a very dangerous person for the world".
何塞普·博雷尔曾在欧盟外交与安全政策高级代表职位上工作五年，位居欧洲外交核心。他帮助欧盟应对了近年来一些决定性的国际危机，包括俄罗斯对乌克兰的全面入侵以及加沙冲突。
Josep Borrell spent five years at the heart of European diplomacy as the EU's High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. He helped steer the bloc through some of the defining international crises of recent years, from Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine to the Gaza conflict.
这位前西班牙外交部长现任巴塞罗那国际事务中心（CIDOB）主席，CIDOB是欧洲领先的智库之一。
A former Spanish foreign minister, he is now president of the Barcelona Centre for International Affairs (CIDOB), one of Europe's leading think tanks.
在本次采访中，我们探讨美国中期选举结果可能对欧洲意味着什么。所谓的“蓝色海啸”——民主党人在国会取得决定性胜利，是否会带来更具建设性的跨大西洋关系？亦或是国内受限的唐纳德·特朗普实际上会在外交政策上表现得更为反复无常？
In this interview, we look at what the US midterm results could mean for Europe. Will the so-called blue tsunami, the decisive victory for the Democrats in Congress, lead to a more constructive transatlantic relationship? Or could a more constrained Donald Trump domestically actually mean a more erratic president on foreign policy?
博雷尔指出，尽管民主党人在选举中获胜，特朗普仍保有否决权，仍是“对世界非常危险的人”。这位前欧盟最高外交官还评论了跨大西洋关系的裂痕，并称“欧洲人一直在与美国玩顺从的游戏”。
According to Borrell, despite the Democrats' election victory, Trump still retains veto powers and remains a "very dangerous person for the world". The former top EU diplomat also comments on the fractured transatlantic relationship, and how "Europeans have been playing the game of submission with the US".
谈及乌克兰战争，博雷尔对美国资金的改善并不乐观，认为欧洲人实际上一直在“买单”。
When it comes to the war in Ukraine, Borrell is not optimistic about improvements in US funding, arguing that Europeans have effectively been "paying the bill".
我们还讨论了共和党在中期选举中惨败可能向希望在欧洲取得进展的右翼和极右翼政党传递的信号。随着法国和西班牙等国选举临近，博雷尔认为这些结果对左翼来说是“令人鼓舞的”。
We also discuss what message the Republicans' heavy midterm defeat could send to right-wing and far-right parties hoping to gain ground in Europe. With elections approaching in countries like France and Spain, Borrell believes these results are "encouraging" for the left.
但他表示，西班牙首相佩德罗·桑切斯决定在11月29日提前举行大选，这一决定究竟是会赌赢，还是会让西班牙自1975年弗朗西斯科·佛朗哥去世以来首次出现极右翼政党进入政府，仍有待观察。
However, he says it remains to be seen whether Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez's decision to call a snap election for November 29 will prove to be a gamble that pays off, or whether Spain could see a far-right party enter government for the first time since the death of Francisco Franco in 1975.
本节目由奥伊哈娜·阿尔曼多斯、伊莎贝尔·罗梅罗、弗洛琳·奥斯法特、佩琳·德普拉和夏洛特·普吕多姆制作。
Programme prepared by Oihana Almandoz, Isabelle Romero, Florine Hausfater, Perrine Desplats and Charlotte Prudhomme