
前国务卿希拉里·克林顿在“Pivot”播客节目中警告称,即使民主党在中期选举中取得重大胜利,如果未能聚焦选民最关心的问题,也可能挥霍掉这些成果。
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned on the "Pivot" podcast that even if Democrats score major victories in the midterms, they could squander their gains if they fail to focus on the issues that matter to voters most.
克林顿在一场选举之夜现场活动中与“Pivot”播客联合主持人卡拉·斯威舍和斯科特·加洛韦对话,并预测将出现一股“民主党浪潮”。
Clinton spoke with "Pivot" podcast co-hosts Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway at a live Election Night event and predicted a Democratic wave.
“我认为我们醒来时将看到一个民主党控制的众议院和一个民主党控制的参议院,”她告诉两位联合主持人。
"I think we're going to wake up to a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate," she told the co-hosts.
加洛韦赞同克林顿的预测,但警告称,如果民主党不回应选民关切,这可能只是短期胜利。
Galloway agreed with Clinton's prediction but warned that it may be a short-term victory if Democrats do not respond to voter concerns.
“咱们不妨数数鸡蛋,假设我们拿下众议院和参议院,日期来到11月4日。我会说这是租赁,不是按揭;是约会,不是恋爱,”他说。“我认为这将取决于选民不是多爱民主党,而是少恨我们一些。‘你认为民主党或民主党领导层需要做什么——你觉得他们立刻需要做哪两三件事,才能把这变成通向2028年的持久优势,而不是仅仅在24个月内再次翻盘?’他问道。
"Let's count our chickens and assume we take the House and the Senate and it's Nov. 4. I would argue it's a lease, not a mortgage, dating, not a relationship," he said. "I think that it'll be a function of not them loving Democrats, but hating us less." "What do you think the Democratic Party needs to do or Democratic leadership — what are two or three things you think they need to do immediately such that we can turn this into something enduring going into ‘28 instead of just them flipping back in 24 months," he asked.
克林顿表示赞同,警告称民主党若想在2028年也获胜,就需要利用好任何中期选举胜利,并兑现其议程。
Clinton agreed, warning that Democrats would need to capitalize on any midterm victories and follow through on their agenda if they want to win in 2028 as well.
“你完全正确,斯科特。如果民主党不带着议程上台,且缺乏推行该议程的纪律,那么他们将失去在本次选举中将要获得的那种支持,”她说。
"You're absolutely right, Scott. If the Democrats don't go in with an agenda and have the discipline to enact that agenda, then they're going to lose the kind of support that they're going to gain in this election," she said.
克林顿表示,民主党可以通过聚焦负担能力、腐败以及对政府效率部(DOGE)的调查,来利用潜在的中期选举胜利。
Clinton said Democrats could capitalize on potential midterm victories by focusing on affordability, corruption and investigations into the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

“第一,他们应该关注可负担性议程。里面会有什么内容?我认为有几项内容,其中之一是医疗成本,但也可以进一步加快住房开工,认真研究如何将化石燃料成本的负担从消费者转移到石油和天然气公司身上,这些公司已经获得了创纪录的利润,”她说。“所以我认为目前正在做很多好的工作,以制定一揽子可负担性方案。”
"Number one, they ought to look at the affordability agenda. What's going to be in that? I think there are several things, one of which is healthcare costs, but there also can be even more fast tracking of, you know, housing starts, taking a hard look at how we can, you know, shift the burden on fossil fuel costs from consumers to the oil and gas companies which have recorded record profits," she said. "So I think that there's a lot of good work being done right now to put together an affordability package."
“第二,反腐败方案。人们必须感觉到腐败问题将成为焦点,因为它一直在耗费资金,”她说。“人们一直在以普通美国人、消费者、每天早起谋生的人为代价获利。”她说,最后一步将是对“政府效率部”(DOGE)的影响进行一些调查。
"Secondly, an anti-corruption package. You know, people have to feel that this issue of corruption is going to be front and center, because it has been costing money," she said. "People have been benefiting at the expense of, you know, everyday Americans, consumers, people who get up every day and try to make a living." The final step, she said, would be to do some investigations into DOGE's impact.

“我们甚至仍然不知道埃隆·马斯克通过‘政府效率部’造成了什么破坏,”克林顿说。“我们不知道什么数据被非法获取了,你的社会保障数据、你的医疗保险数据……它们在哪里?被用来做什么了?我们需要彻查此事。”
"We still don't even know the damage that Elon Musk did through DOGE," Clinton remarked. "We don't know what data was illegally taken, your social security data, your Medicare data … where is it? What's it being used for? We need to get to the bottom of this."