
总统唐纳德·特朗普在周日晚间播出的《60分钟》节目采访中,对共和党历史性失利做出了迄今最为详尽的评估,似乎向民主党发出了在移民这一有争议问题上合作的邀请。
President Donald Trump offered his most extensive assessment yet of historic Republican losses in an interview with “60 Minutes” that aired Sunday evening, appearing to extend an invitation to Democrats to work together on the contentious issue of immigration.
尽管特朗普本人支持率创纪录地低,但他并未为这场惨败承担个人责任。他说,共和党候选人未能将他的受欢迎程度转化为他们自身竞选的胜利。
Trump took no personal blame for the wipeout, despite his record unpopularity. He said GOP candidates weren’t able to translate his popularity to their own races.
在承认其政绩在某些方面不受欢迎的同时,他明确表示,在大多数问题上并无和解之意,而民主党正准备在国会掌握多数席位。
And while he acknowledged areas where his record was unpopular, he made clear he wasn’t in a conciliatory mood on most issues as Democrats prepare to take majorities on Congress.
在评估为何共和党在上周选举中表现如此糟糕时,特朗普将伊朗和糟糕的信息传递列为主要原因。
As he assessed why Republicans fared so poorly in last week’s elections, Trump named Iran and bad messaging as the primary culprits.
但他也承认,其政府对移民的打击行动导致数千名无证移民被捕并被驱逐,这项政策不受欢迎,在他看来也走得太远了。
But he also acknowledged that his administration’s crackdown on immigration that saw thousands of undocumented migrants arrested and deported was unpopular, and in his view went too far.
“太严厉了。我认为可能太严厉了,”特朗普说,特别提到了那些在该国居住十年或以上且未犯下严重罪行的移民。
“It was too tough. I think it might be too tough,” Trump said, citing in particular immigrants who have been in the country for ten years or more without committing serious crimes.
总统的这一承认颇为引人注目:他曾在2024年竞选时将这一议题作为主打,而仅两年后,该议题已变得政治上具有毒性。幕后,特朗普对其政府在抓捕移民时采用的一些手段表示过担忧。
It was a striking acknowledgement from the president that a topic he ran on in 2024 has, in two years, become politically toxic. Behind the scenes, Trump has expressed misgivings at some of the tactics his administration has employed in rounding up migrants.
不过,即使在承认其移民议程过于强硬之后,目前仍不清楚特朗普是否考虑对其移民议程做出任何改变。他刚刚将这些政策的设计者斯蒂芬·米勒任命为新任幕僚长。
Still, it’s unclear whether Trump is considering any changes to his immigration agenda, even after conceding it was too hard-line. He just named the architect of the policies, Stephen Miller, as his new chief of staff.
与CBS记者罗斯·多萨特的采访以一段揭示性的问答结束,探讨特朗普是否可能原谅他视为敌人的人——即使是在面对上帝的最终审判之前。
The interview with CBS’s Ross Douthat ended on a revealing back-and-forth over whether Trump could ever forgive his perceived enemies — even ahead of his final judgement before God.
“我认为他们是非常坏的人,而且我不喜欢——我可以用‘仇恨’这个词——我确实仇恨我的一些敌人,”特朗普说,随后总结道:“我现在可能不能那样做了,因为我确实仇恨我的一些敌人,而且我永远都会。”
“I think they were very bad people, and I dislike — I can use the word hate — I do hate some of my enemies,” Trump said, before concluding: “I probably cannot do that now because I do hate some of my enemies, and I always will.”
这个问题先是回顾了去年在遇害活动家查理·柯克葬礼上的一个时刻,他的遗孀埃里卡当众原谅了据称的凶手。几分钟后,特朗普登台宣称:“我恨我的对手,也不希望他们好。”特朗普积累了一长串不满,从第一任期内领导对他进行调查的民主党人和其他官员,到反对其议程的政敌。
The question was prefaced by recounting a moment last year at the funeral for slain activist Charlie Kirk, where his widow Erika publicly forgave his alleged assassin. Moments later, Trump appeared onstage to declare: “I hate my opponents, and I don’t want the best for them.”Trump has cultivated a long list of grievances, from Democrats and other officials who led investigations into him during his first term to rival politicians who have opposed his agenda.
尽管他有时也表达过和解的愿望——包括上周,他说希望与新上台的民主党人合作——但他的默认做法始终是退回到他所认为的不公之中。
While he has at moments voiced a desire for conciliation — including last week when he said he wanted to work with newly powerful Democrats — his default has always been to retrench into his perceived injustices.
当副总统JD·万斯上周写道,伊朗战争应对共和党的惨败负责时,特朗普听起来大多表示支持。
When Vice President JD Vance wrote last week that the Iran war was to blame for the Republican wipeouts, Trump sounded mostly supportive.

然而,几天后,他对自己的回应做出了限定。现在,他说他希望万斯在评估冲突的政治后果时,能更支持这场战争。
A few days later, however, he has qualified his response. Now, he says he wishes Vance had been more supportive of the conflict even while assessing its political fallout.
“我唯一希望他当时说的——如果他有这种感觉,你得去问他——但如果你有机会再来一次,你会怎么做?你知道,他是决策过程的一部分。我的答案是坚定的肯定,”特朗普说。
“The only thing I wish he would have said there — if he felt it, and you’d have to ask him about that — but if you had it to do again, would you do it? You know, he’s part of a decision-making process. And my answer is an emphatic yes,” Trump said.
他说万斯事先就那篇关于伊朗的帖子与他交谈过,但暗示两人并未深入探讨这篇长文的内容。
He said Vance had spoken to him beforehand about the Iran post, but suggested they did not delve into the content of the lengthy essay.
“他问我,‘你觉得怎么样?’我说,‘写你想写的,’”特朗普在回顾事先与万斯的谈话时说。“顺便说一句,你打算写什么?”万斯关于伊朗的帖子在华盛顿被广泛解读为副总统为可能的总统竞选定下基调。
“He asked me, ‘What do I think?’ I said, ‘Write what you feel,’” Trump said as he recounted the conversation he had with Vance beforehand. “By the way, what are you going to write?”Vance’s post about Iran was widely interpreted in Washington as a way for the vice president to lay down a marker ahead of a potential run for president.
在采访中,特朗普暗示万斯若参选,不会自动获得他的背书。相反,总统表示他可能干脆不予背书。
In the interview, Trump suggested Vance would not automatically receive his endorsement should he run. Instead, the president mused he may withhold an endorsement altogether.
“可能。不一定,”特朗普在被问及可能的背书时这样说,随后补充道,“也许我不插手更好。”被问及除万斯之外,谁会入选他的名单时,特朗普大力推崇国务卿马尔科·鲁比奥。
“Probably. Not necessarily,” Trump said when asked about a potential endorsement, later adding, “Maybe I’m better off not getting involved.”Asked who would be on his shortlist other than Vance, Trump touted Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

“我觉得马尔科很棒。我是说,他当然喜欢这个职位,而且表现出色。他做得非常好。他们考虑的人选,但还有许多其他人,我宁愿不提他们的名字。有些参议员很出色。我都认识他们。我很喜欢他们,”特朗普说。
“I think Marco’s great. I mean, he certainly loves it, and he’s doing great. He’s doing a fantastic job. The ones they think about, but there are many others, and I’d rather not mention their names. There’s some senators that are excellent. I know them all. I like them a lot,” Trump said.
随着总统任期进入最后冲刺阶段,特朗普将不得不面对一个最终试图向前发展的共和党。他在采访中表示,他仍然认为自己的背书在共和党内具有重要分量。
As he enters the final stretch of his presidency, Trump will have to grapple with a Republican Party that eventually tries to move on. He said in the interview he still believes his endorsement carries significant weight within the GOP.
“我认为如果我背书,会起到很大作用,因为我的背书能力一直非常强。”采访中最具争议的部分是,当道萨特追问特朗普及其家人广泛的商业利益,包括加密货币领域时,这些利益已招致民主党的腐败指控。
“I think it would play a big role if I did, because my endorsement capacity has been very strong.”The most combative portion of the interview came as Douthat pressed Trump on his families extensive business interests, including in crypto, that have drawn corruption accusations from Democrats.
特朗普在采访中表示,他的一个儿子,他称其为“非常正直、好人”,负责管理他的资金,而大部分资金“交给华尔街最大的公司进行投资”。总统去年就职前不久,他和儿子们推出的各种加密货币业务已为他带来超过10亿美元的收入。
Trump said in the interview that one of his sons, who he called a “very straight, good guy,” is the one who manages his money and that most of it is “given to the biggest firms on Wall Street to invest.”The president has raked in more than $1 billion from various crypto businesses that he and his sons launched shortly before he was sworn in last year.
一家与阿拉伯联合酋长国有关联的投资公司,在特朗普第二次就职前收购了特朗普家族加密货币公司近一半的股份。
An investment firm tied to the United Arab Emirates acquired nearly half of the Trump family’s cryptocurrency company ahead of Trump’s second inauguration.
总统淡化了各国试图在白宫买通影响力的担忧,称“每位总统都会遇到”外部实体试图向总统讨好的问题。
The president downplayed concerns that countries are trying to buy influence in the White House, saying that “every president has a problem” with outside entities seeking to curry favor with the president.
他坚称自己在家族的赚钱活动中没有任何角色,尽管他尚未完全撤资。
And he insisted he had no role in his family’s moneymaking ventures, despite not having fully divested.
“如何从现金中撤资?所以,我承受了很多批评,因为我认为他们交易了大约5万只股票,因为他们就是这么做的。全是电脑生成的。我完全不知道他们在买什么,”他说。
“How do you divest from cash? So, I took a lot of heat because I think they traded, like, 50,000 stocks, because that’s what they do. It’s all computer generated. I have no idea what the hell they’re buying,” he said.