周日，唐纳德·特朗普总统承认，他的移民打击行动“过于严厉”，可能在中期选举中损害了共和党，导致民主党控制了国会两院。总统表示，他“很想在移民问题上做点什么”。当被问及与民主党多数派达成的协议可能是什么样子时，他透露了其软化言辞背后的自身利益。
on Sunday, President Donald Trump acknowledged that his immigration crackdown had been “too tough” and could have hurt Republicans in a midterm election that gave Democrats control of both chambers of Congress. The president said he’d “love to do something on immigration.”When asked what a deal with the Democratic majority could look like, he revealed the self-interest behind his softer rhetoric.
“当你走进一家酒店，那里有个女人当过女仆、清洁工、这个、那个、服务员……突然之间她们被带出了这个国家，这很难受，”他说。“但有一群人，我会说是相当靠右的那群人，他们希望所有人都被带走。”当然，其中一位就是特朗普周五提拔为其幕僚长的那个人：斯蒂芬·米勒。
“When you go into a hotel and you have a woman that’s worked there as a maid, as a cleaner, as a this, as a that, as a waitress…and all of a sudden they’re being taken out of the country, it’s tough,” he said. “But there’s a group of people that I would say on the sort of pretty far right that would like everybody taken out.”One of those people, of course, is the very man Trump promoted on Friday to serve as his chief of staff: Stephen Miller.
“我提出了一项法案，旨在解散国土安全部，我打算从内部解散国土安全部。”
“I introduced a bill to dismantle DHS, and I intend to dismantle DHS from the inside.”
“感觉像煤气灯效应，”伊利诺伊州民主党众议员德莉亚·拉米雷斯周二在视频通话中表示。“让我难以置信的是，一位总统会说：‘我刚输掉了一场选举’，也许他的移民政策走得太远了，他提到了一些从他那里受益的人——比如他自家酒店的工人——也许他应该对此采取行动，并有兴趣与民主党人合作推进移民改革——与此同时，他身后却站着一位大规模驱逐和恐怖行动的设计师，担任他的新任幕僚长。到底是哪一种？因为我们看到的认知失调再大不过了。”
“It feels like gaslighting,” Democratic Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois told during a video call on Tuesday. “It’s mind-boggling to me that a president will say, ‘I just lost an election,’ that perhaps his immigration policies have gone too far, he mentions some of the people that he has benefited from—like the hotel workers in his own hotels—and that maybe he should do something about it, and is interested in working with Democrats on immigration reform—while, concurrently, he has a man who’s been the architect of mass deportations and terror standing right behind him as his new chief of staff. Which one is it? Because the dissonance could not be greater than what we’re seeing.”
拉米雷斯正在争取领导众议院国土安全委员会监督、调查与问责小组委员会。在11月3日赢得连任后，她加入了承诺调查国土安全部和移民执法越权行为的民主党人的行列。“诺姆、马克韦恩、米勒、霍曼、博维诺，你们好吗？”这位女众议员在X上写道。“腾出时间。”诺姆、马克韦恩、米勒、霍曼、博维诺，你们好吗？腾出时间。
Ramirez is vying to lead the House Homeland Security subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability. After winning reelection on November 3, she joined the chorus of Democrats pledging to investigate the Department of Homeland Security and immigration enforcement overreach. “Noem, Markwayne, Miller, Homan, Bovino, what’s up?” the congresswoman wrote on X. “Clear your schedule.”Noem, Markwayne, Miller, Homan, Bovino, what’s up? Clear your schedule.
—— 众议员德莉亚·C·拉米雷斯 (@repdeliaramirez) 2026年11月4日我周二与拉米雷斯交谈，内容涉及新一届国会在移民问题上应优先考虑什么、对国土安全部的问责可能是什么样子、民主党如何重获选民信任以在该问题上兑现承诺，以及为什么移民改革和负担能力息息相关。
— Congresswoman Delia C. Ramirez (@repdeliaramirez) November 4, 2026 I spoke with Ramirez on Tuesday about what the new Congress should prioritize on immigration, what accountability for DHS could look like, how Democrats can regain voters’ trust to deliver on that issue, and why immigration reform and affordability are interconnected.
斯蒂芬·米勒被任命为特朗普的幕僚长，这并不意味着政府有意改变其移民政策的方向，不是吗？
The appointment of Stephen Miller to be Trump’s chief of staff doesn’t exactly signal that the administration is interested in changing course on its immigration policies, does it?
当你拥有一位积极致力于恐吓移民社区、并公开赞美白人至上主义的人时，情况就不同了。我们很难看到总统能以那种方式领导，因为许多人觉得斯蒂芬·米勒一直是幕后总统，现在他只是得到了晋升。我认识到总统精神状态不稳定，在我们通过移民改革法案之前，他可能会改变主意20次。我们不应根据总统将否决或不否决什么来立法。
Not when you have a man who has actively worked to terrorize immigrant communities and has celebrated white supremacy so publicly. It’s very difficult for us to see the president being able to lead in that way, because so many people have felt that Stephen Miller has been president in the shadows, and now he’s just got a promotion. I recognize that the president is not mentally stable and he may change his mind 20 times before we pass an immigration reform bill. We should not be legislating based on whatever the president will or will not veto.
我会揭穿他的虚张声势。我会让民主党通过我们能通过的最全面的移民改革法案，让尽可能多的人走出阴影，然后把法案送给他，让他决定想怎么处理。我不想做的是，把我们自己谈判到一个我们知道平庸、无法回应当下时刻的地步。这是一个时刻，我相信每一项民调都会显示，美国人民希望看到全面的移民改革，这可能是我们40年来真正能做成的事，上一次我们通过此类法案还是1986年。
I would call his bluff. I would have Democrats pass the most comprehensive immigration reform bill that we possibly can, bringing out of the shadows the most people possible, and then send it to him, and have him decide what he wants to do with it. What I don’t want to do is negotiate ourselves down to something that we know is mediocre and is not going to meet the moment. This is a moment where I believe that every poll will show you that the American people want to see comprehensive immigration reform, and it could be the thing we do literally 40 years later, after the last thing we in fact passed in 1986.
选民对特朗普政府（包括其移民政策）给予了不可否认的谴责，形成了一股蓝色浪潮。然而，民主党在移民问题上一直处于守势，将其视为累赘，选民也越来越不信任民主党能比特朗普政府更好地处理这一问题。该党今后应如何处理移民问题——以及如何围绕它传递信息？
Voters delivered an undeniable rebuke of the Trump administration, including its immigration policies, resulting in a blue wave. Democrats, however, have been on the back foot on immigration, treating it as a liability and voters have grown distrustful that Democrats can do better on that issue than the Trump administration. How should the party approach immigration—and message around it—going forward?
我们在中期选举中看到的是对唐纳德·特朗普、共和党及其令人恐惧的腐败、仇恨、驱逐、恐吓、报复政策的谴责，他们给了我们一个大胆变革和正义的授权。他们对民主党说，这是对共和党的谴责，也是一个机会，让你们展示将如何运用我们给予你们的这一伟大授权。
What we saw during the midterm elections was a rebuke on Donald Trump, Republicans, and their horrifying policies of corruption, hate, deportation, intimidation, retaliation, and they’ve given us a mandate for bold change and justice. They said to Democrats, this is a rebuke against Republicans, and an opportunity for you to show me what you will do with this great mandate we have given you.
民主党必须回应当下的呼声，回应呼声意味着要为人们经历的恐怖、失去的医疗保障、以及买不起的生活必需品讨回公道。
Democrats must meet the moment, and meeting the moment means demanding justice for the horrors that people have lived, for the health care that they have lost, and the necessities that they can’t afford.
这其中包括移民改革，以及民主党有能力停止为移民和移民问题道歉，转而肯定移民是这个国家不可或缺的一部分，肯定移民稳定了我们的经济，以及我们毫不掩饰地完全站在移民社区一边，建立对他们的永久保护——永久的入籍途径、对在该国寻求庇护者的保护——以便我们不再痴迷于边境，而是真正保护人们及其入境、获取必要签证、以及让长期骨肉分离的家庭团聚的能力。
That includes immigration reform and the ability for Democrats to stop apologizing for immigration and for immigrants, and start affirming that immigrants are a critical part of this nation, that immigrants stabilize our economies, and that we unapologetically fully stand with the immigrant community and the establishment of permanent protections for them—permanent pathways to citizenship, protections for those seeking asylum in this country—so that we stop obsessing over the border and actually protect people and their ability to enter this country, get the visas necessary, and reunite people who have been separated from their families for so long.
事实上我们可以做到这一点，美国民众希望我们证明我们会这么做。这意味着我们不自我破坏，不自我矮化。用马萨诸塞州民主党众议员阿亚娜·普雷斯利的话说，我们要展示多数派能做什么——因为平庸的政策改变会让我们非常快地重蹈2024年的覆辙。
We can, in fact, do that, and the American people want us to prove that we will. That means that we don’t sabotage ourselves. That means that we don’t sell ourselves short. And in the words of [Massachusetts Democratic Rep.] Ayanna Pressley, that we show what a majority can do—because mediocre policy changes will get us a 2024 repeat very quickly after.
“最终目标是拆解（美国移民与海关执法局），在过渡期间……我们需要追回给他们的每一美元。”听起来你是在主张该党采取一个明确的亲移民议程。
“The ultimate goal is to dismantle [ICE], and in the interim…we need to be clawing back every dollar that was given to them.”It sounds like you’re advocating for the party to embrace an affirmatively pro-immigrant agenda.
完全正确。这就是为什么我在一个月前提出了人民的移民改革愿景。我不会等到选举之后。我想要一份路线图，民主党人可以指着它作为解决方案，并向那些首次投票、赋予他们这一多数席位的选民表明：这一次他们懂了。我们不会找借口，我们将在移民问题上拥有一个积极、肯定的议程。一个为生活在阴影中的数百万人创造入籍途径、建立合法移民渠道、并创造和保护人们在美国寻求庇护能力的议程。
That’s exactly right. It’s why I introduced a month ago the people’s vision for immigration reform. I wasn’t going to wait until after the elections. I wanted a roadmap that Democrats can point to as the solution and the way that they show the people that voted for the very first time and gave them this majority that they got it this time: That we will not make excuses, and we will have a positive, affirmative agenda as it pertains to immigration in this country. One that creates citizenship for the millions of people living in the shadows, establishes legal pathways, and creates and protects the ability for people to seek asylum in this country.
去年，芝加哥是美国移民与海关执法局（ICE）“中途岛闪击行动”打击行动的中心之一。您一直是呼吁国土安全部（DHS）问责的最直言不讳的美国议员之一。在您心目中，问责是什么样子的？
Last year, Chicago was one of the epicenters of ICE’s crackdown with Operation Midway Blitz. You’ve been one of the most vocal US lawmakers calling for accountability for DHS. What does accountability look like in your mind?
让我先说，没有问责就没有可负担性。毫无例外。如果你想真正谈论为什么人们现在正在生活并经历这些挑战，无论是买不起食品杂货、开不起车上班或接孩子、付不起房租或买不起房，还是为什么他们生活在阴影中、生意关门歇业，都必须对造成这一切的行为主体进行问责。这也意味着要对那些恐吓他们的人进行问责。
Let me start by saying that there is no affordability without accountability. Point blank. If you want to actually talk about why people are living and experiencing the challenges they are right now, whether it’s that they can’t afford to buy groceries, they can’t afford to drive to work or pick up their kids, or they can’t afford the rent or buy their home, or why they’re living in the shadows and their businesses are shutting down, there has to be accountability to the actors that have made that happen. And it also means accountability to those that have terrorized them.
是的，我们应该通过全民医保。是的，我们需要通过一项提高美国工资的法案。是的，我们应该废除超级政治行动委员会（super PACs）并向富人征税。但我们也必须明白，当我们为一个可负担得起的国家而战时，我们必须让这个政府里的每一个法西斯分子承担责任。
Yes, we should be passing Medicare for all. Yes, we need to pass a bill that increases wages in this country. Yes, we should abolish super PACs and tax the rich. But we also have to understand that, as we fight for an affordable country, we have to hold every fascist in this administration accountable.
这其中包括[前国土安全部部长]克里斯蒂·诺姆，她目前有一份非常好的工作，什么都不用干却能拿高薪，在国务院担任高级顾问。这也意味着马克韦恩·穆林、皮特·赫格塞斯、斯蒂芬·米勒、唐纳德·特朗普、汤姆·霍曼、格雷戈里·博维诺，我可以整天列举所有需要被追责的当事人，这也是为什么对我来说，让人们明白辞职是不够的很重要。这救不了他们，躲不过调查、弹劾和追责。
That includes [former DHS Secretary] Kristi Noem, who right now has a really good job doing nothing and getting paid a lot of money as a senior advisor in the State Department. It also means Markwayne Mullin Pete Hegseth Stephen Miller Donald Trump, Tom Homan Gregory Bovino I could be here all day talking about all the actors that need to be held accountable, and it’s why, for me, it’s important for people to understand that resignations are not enough. They’re not going to save them from investigations, from impeachment, and accountability.
既然我们现在掌握了木槌，我们就有权发出传票、以藐视国会罪追责官员，并在他们拒绝出席听证会时请求法院介入。
As we now hold gavels, we have the power to issue subpoenas, hold officials in contempt, and request that the courts step in when they don’t show up to our hearings.
这也是我个人争取国土安全监督小组委员会木槌的原因。因为我相信，凭借这一职位——自从我进入国会以来，过去四年我一直在那里做监督工作——我们将能够主导对多项事务的调查，包括利用联邦资金奖赏竞选捐款人、我们在拘留中心看到的医疗疏忽、斯蒂芬·米勒要求无视人身保护令以及侵犯正当程序、授权执法人员在无人追责的情况下行事。
It’s why I personally am pursuing the Homeland Security Oversight Subcommittee gavel. Because I believe that from there, where I’ve been doing oversight work the last four years since I’ve been in Congress, we’re going to be able to lead investigations into a number of things, including the use of federal funding to reward campaign donors, the medical neglect that we have seen in detention centers, the calls by Stephen Miller to ignore habeas corpus and the violation of due process, the empowerment of agents to act without accountability Also, and we don’t say this enough, how FEMA Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), the Coast Guard, and TSA have been literally defunded and gutted to support the mass deportation campaign, and how illegal it is to take money from critical missions to move it into the obsession of Donald Trump and Stephen Miller [with] ICE and deportation.
此外，我们还不够多地提及，联邦应急管理局（FEMA）、网络安全和基础设施安全局（CISA）、海岸警卫队和运输安全局（TSA）是如何被实实在在地削减资金、掏空力量，以支持大规模驱逐行动的，以及从关键任务抽调资金投入唐纳德·特朗普和斯蒂芬·米勒对移民与海关执法局（ICE）和驱逐行动的执念，是多么违法。有大量工作要做。我们必须愿意行使我们的权力。
There’s plenty of work to be done. We have to be willing to use our power.
您认为民主党在进入第120届国会时应优先考虑什么？具体而言，您争取领导的众议院小组委员会在势头正劲时应聚焦什么？
What do you think Democrats should prioritize going into the 120th Congress, and, specifically, what should the House subcommittee you’re seeking to lead focus on while there’s momentum?
“如果国土安全部继续以目前的方式运作，就没有民主可言。”我提出了一项拆解国土安全部的法案，并打算从内部拆解国土安全部。我们进行的每一项调查——无论是关于拘留、谁在以关押在笼子里的儿童为代价牟利，还是关于这些287(g)协议的扩大，即地方警方与联邦特工合作追捕人员——对于提供必要的证据、从而实现最大程度的正义都至关重要。
“There is no democracy if DHS continues to operate the way it does.”I introduced a bill to dismantle DHS, and I intend to dismantle DHS from the inside. Every investigation we do—whether it’s about detention, who is profiting at the expense of children who are literally in cages, or the expansion of these 287(g) agreements where local police [work] with federal agents to hunt down people—is critical to provide the evidence necessary to be able to bring the most justice.
这些调查不仅关乎那些该入狱的人，归根结底是要创造系统性变革。人们反复对我们说，是的，我们想要负担得起的生活和问责制，而在问责制中，我们想要你们向我们证明，你们将竭尽全力，让我们不再陷入这种境地。
These investigations are not just about those that need to be behind bars, but ultimately that we create systemic changes. What people have said to us over and over is that yes, we want affordability and accountability, and in that accountability, what we want is for you to prove to us that you will do everything in your power so we’re never here again.
人们会说，国土安部并不是唯一有问题的机构。绝对不是。但没有其他机构像国土安全部这样，集中了如此大的权力和如此多的资金，以此恐吓美国人民，并实实在在地剥夺我们的公民权利，同时却声称他们是在保护我们免受恐怖主义威胁的幌子下这么做。如果国土安全部继续以目前的方式运作，就没有民主可言。
People will say, well, DHS is not the only agency that has been problematic. Absolutely not. But there’s no other agency that has consolidated the amount of power that DHS has with the amount of money that DHS has in order to terrorize the American people and literally rob us from our civil rights, while at the same time saying that they’re doing it under the guise of protecting us from terrorism. There is no democracy if DHS continues to operate the way it does.
对我来说，调查必须通向重新构想新事物，我们要保护网络安全基础设施，保护联邦应急管理局（FEMA），保护运输安全管理局（TSA），保护边境的海关职能，并废除移民与海关执法局（ICE）和海关与边境保卫局（CBP），将资金重新投向医疗保健、社区安全和第一响应者。
For me, investigations must lead into reimagining something new, where we protect cybersecurity infrastructure, where we protect FEMA, where we protect TSA, where we protect the customs functions at the border, and where we abolish ICE and CBP and reinvest funds towards healthcare, community safety, and first responders.
自特朗普重返白宫以来，国会已批准近四分之一万亿美元用于移民执法。国会中的民主党多数派能在ICE开支方面做些什么，以遏制该机构并减缓特朗普的大规模驱逐行动？
Since Trump’s return to the White House, Congress has given the administration nearly a quarter of a trillion dollars for immigration enforcement. What can a Democratic majority in Congress do about ICE spending and to rein in the agency and slow down Trump’s mass deportation campaign?
最终目标是撤销该机构，而在我们构建撤销它的理由期间，我们需要通过“大丑陋法案”或几个月前的和解程序，追回给予他们的每一美元。
The ultimate goal is to dismantle this agency, and in the interim, while we build a case to dismantle it, we need to be clawing back every dollar that was given to them, whether through the “big ugly bill” or the reconciliation process we had a few months ago.
我们需要做的，也是我将与进步党团、国会西班牙裔党团及其他党团合作去做的，是开始通过追回从美国人民手中掠夺并投入这些驱逐、绑架和恐怖行动的资金，来削减移民与海关执法局（ICE）和海关与边境保卫局（CBP）的经费——这些行动为购买拘留中心股票或经营这些拘留中心的人带来了巨额金钱和利润。
What we need to be doing, and what I’ll be working with the Progressive Caucus, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, and the other caucuses [to do], is to begin defunding ICE and CBP by clawing back the money that was robbed from the American people and put into these campaigns of deportation and kidnapping and terror that have brought so much money and profit to those that are either buying stocks in detention or running these detention centers.
我认为我们在临时拨款案（CR）中有一个真正的机会这么做——提出一项修正案来追回那笔钱。如果我们无法在年底前通过临时拨款程序完成此事，那应该成为新任议长上任前100天的首要任务。削减经费、追回资金、将资金重新拨给网络安全和基础设施安全局（CISA）、联邦应急管理局（FEMA）、运输安全管理局（TSA）、美国公民及移民服务局（USCIS），以及国土安全部内部负责确保问责制的办公室。我的意思是，国会，做好你们的工作。我们掌握资金，我们决定资金去向。
I think we have a real opportunity to do so in the CR, the continuing resolution—to create an amendment that claws back that money. If we’re not able to get that done in the CR process before the year’s over, that [should] be a top priority of the new speaker in the first 100 days. Defund, claw back, redirect the money to CISA, to FEMA, to TSA, to USCIS, and to the office that is supposed to ensure accountability within DHS. What I’m saying is, Congress, do your job. We control the money and we control where the money goes.
“移民改革”一词在两党间被随意抛出，但任何类似真正改革的移民大修前景似乎都渺茫。这种意愿存在吗，特别是在新当选的国会议员中？
The term “immigration reform” is thrown around on both sides of the aisle, but any prospect of an immigration overhaul that resembles an actual reform seems far-fetched. Is the appetite there, particularly among newly elected members of Congress?
可负担性要求这个国家进行移民改革。如果不了解破碎的移民体系错综复杂的内情以及民众的需求，就无法谈论这个国家的经济稳定、保护社会保障、保护所有关键的社会安全网项目。这是一个时刻，国会里的人们已经被告知美国民众想要看到什么。舆论要求我们在移民问题上有所作为，并通过移民改革。我们民主党人不足一年的时间，要向美国民众证明我们如何运用他们给予我们的选票，以及他们给予我们的选票是否值得。
Affordability necessitates immigration reform in this country. You cannot talk about economic stability in this country, protecting Social Security, protecting all the critical safety net programs, without understanding the intricacies of a broken immigration system and of the needs of the people. This is a moment where people in this Congress have been told by the American people what they want to see. That public opinion is demanding that we do something related to immigration, and that we pass immigration reform. We, Democrats, have less than a year to prove to the American people what we do with the vote that they gave us, and if the vote they gave us was worth it.
这意味着我们从根本上改变在这个国家谈论移民和移民群体的方式，开始谈论与移民相关的一切好处：如果不通过移民改革，就无法让这个国家的社会保障延续25年或30年。如果通过移民改革，如何能让我们获得的联邦税收收入翻倍。如果通过移民改革，如何能真正提振这个国家的劳动力队伍。如果通过移民改革，如何能在这个国家创造更多工会工作岗位。如果通过移民改革，如何能帮助当下生活在创伤中的儿童恢复过来。
It means that we fundamentally change the way we talk about immigration and immigrants in this country, and we start talking about all the good things related to immigration: [That] you can’t extend Social Security by 25 years or 30 years in this country if you don’t pass immigration reform. How you can double the amount of federal revenue we get in taxes if we pass immigration reform. How you can actually lift this country’s workforce by passing immigration reform. How you can create more labor union jobs in this country by passing immigration reform. How you can help children who are living in trauma in this moment recover by passing immigration reform.
民主党人必须毫不道歉、毫无疑义地挺身维护移民，就像我们维护堕胎权、维护LGBT权利、以及我们为捍卫民主而战并宣称维护民主那样。我们在这个国家能够做到这一点并取得成功，美国民众正在等待我们口中谈论的勇气转化为他们能切身感受到的行动。我怀有希望。我必须怀有希望。
Democrats have to unapologetically, without a doubt, stand up for immigrants the way we stand up for abortion rights, the way we stand up for LGBT rights, and the way that we fight and say we stand up for our democracy. We can do that in this country and be successful, and the American people are waiting for that courage that we talk about to translate into action that they can feel. I’m hopeful. I have to be.