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以色列大选后何去何从?四位作家解读选举结果What’s Next for Israel? Four Writers Decode the Election Results.

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“我们看过这部电影了”:四位作家谈以色列的下一步周二以色列举行的历史性大选以僵局告终,为谈判和博弈铺平了道路,旨在组建议会(Knesset)多数派以组建政府。目前两大阵营陷入僵持:总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡领导的极右翼执政联盟,以及由前以色列国防军参谋长加迪·艾森科特领导的反对派阵营。

‘We’ve Seen This Movie’: Four Writers on What’s Next for Israel Tuesday’s historic elections in Israel ended in deadlock, setting the stage for negotiations and machinations to create a majority in the Knesset that could form a government. Two blocs are now at loggerheads: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s far-right governing coalition and an opposition grouping led by Gadi Eisenkot, a former Israel Defense Forces chief of staff.

在一场书面在线对话中,《纽约时报》观点版副国际编辑丹尼尔·J·沃金与迪亚娜·布图、约西·克莱因·哈勒维、达莉亚·谢因德林和布雷特·斯蒂芬斯探讨了此次大选。文本为求简练清晰已作编辑。

In a written online conversation, Daniel J. Wakin, Times Opinion’s deputy international editor, discussed the election with Diana Buttu, Yossi Klein Halevi, Dahlia Scheindlin and Bret Stephens. The text has been edited for length and clarity.

丹尼尔·J·沃金:以色列人去投票已过去两天。这是25多年来最高的投票率,但两大主要阵营均无法自行组建政府。您认为打破这一僵局最可能的解决方案是什么?

Daniel J. Wakin: It’s been two days since Israelis went to the polls. It was the highest voter turnout in more than 25 years, but neither of the two main blocs will be able to form a government on its own. What do you think is the most likely solution to this logjam?

布雷特·斯蒂芬斯:最可能的情况?内塔尼亚胡先生组阁失败,但继续执政,并寄希望于事态发展——比如与伊朗再次发生军事对抗——在他有利的方向演变,以便在明年某个时候举行的再次大选中获益。

Bret Stephens: Likeliest? Mr. Netanyahu fails to form a government but continues to govern and hopes events — like another military confrontation with Iran — turn in his favor when another election is called sometime next year.

达莉亚·谢因德林:很难理清各种排列组合:政治僵局和重新大选?少数派政府?团结政府?阵营倒戈?最大的问题是,是否有任何阵营会做显而易见的事,即在联合政府中纳入阿拉伯政党——这两个政党合计拥有19个席位,创下纪录。

Dahlia Scheindlin: It’s hard to keep the permutations straight: political stalemate and new elections? A minority government? A unity government? Bloc defections? The biggest question is whether any bloc will do the obvious and include an Arab party in the coalition — those two parties hold 19 seats combined, a record.

戴安娜·布图:以色列利用“拥有以色列国籍的巴勒斯坦人可以投票”这一说法,试图为自己抵御种族隔离的指控。但这里清楚地表明,尽管巴勒斯坦人约占人口的 20%,并已表明他们想结束这个政府,我们的选票却被无视。反对派虽然获得机会,本可通过与巴勒斯坦主导的政党组建联合政府来从内塔尼亚胡手中夺权,但似乎无法克服自身的种族主义,最终将他赶下台。

Diana Buttu: Israel uses the claim that Palestinians who hold Israeli citizenship can vote as somehow being a defense against the charge of apartheid. But here we see clearly that despite the fact that Palestinians, who make up about 20 percent of the population, showed they wanted an end to this government, our votes are being discounted. The opposition, despite being given an opportunity to seize power from Mr. Netanyahu by forming a coalition with the Palestinian-led parties, cannot seem to get over their racism to finally oust him.

约西·克莱因·哈列维:反对派有三个选项,没有一个好。第一是推动重新大选,内塔尼亚胡很可能会维持现有支持率,甚至增加支持。例如,成千上万专程回国投票反对内塔尼亚胡的海外以色列人不会第二次回来。第二个选项是依靠两个阿拉伯政党的外部支持,组建少数派政府。第三个选项是与内塔尼亚胡组建所谓的“团结政府”,但没人信任他会遵守轮换协议——无论如何,反对派的主要目标一直是让他下台。

Yossi Klein Halevi: The opposition has three options, none of them good. The first is to go for new elections, in which Mr. Netanyahu is likely to either maintain his support or even increase it. For example, the many thousands of Israelis living abroad who came in just to vote against Mr. Netanyahu will not come a second time. The second option is to depend on the outside support of the two Arab parties and create a minority government. The third option is to enter a so-called unity government with Mr. Netanyahu, but no one trusts him to uphold a rotation agreement — and in any case the main goal of the opposition has been to unseat him.

谢因德林:就我个人而言,我认为约西的第二个选项很好。而且为什么只能从外部支持?阿拉伯政党应该直接加入联合政府。

Scheindlin: Personally, I think Yossi’s second option is a great one. And why only from the outside? Arab parties should join a coalition directly.

斯蒂芬斯:我不认为艾森科特的集团会急于与拒绝将哈马斯描述为恐怖组织的阿拉伯反对派联手。问题在于,这场投票的各方都有太多“毒丸条款”:艾森科特集团因个人猜疑不愿与内塔尼亚胡同坐,也不愿与与总理结盟的哈雷迪——极端正统派——政党同坐,因为豁免哈雷迪服兵役的问题位居该集团关切之首。如果内塔尼亚胡看到通往完整任期的道路,他不急于与艾森科特达成权力分享协议。所以我怀疑我们将陷入僵局,直到宣布重新选举。

Stephens: I don’t think Mr. Eisenkot’s bloc is going to be eager to team up with an Arab opposition that refuses to describe Hamas as a terrorist organization. The problem is that there are so many poison pills on every side of this vote: The Eisenkot bloc won’t sit with Mr. Netanyahu out of personal suspicion, or with the Haredi — ultra-Orthodox — parties allied with the prime minister because the issue of exempting the Haredi from conscription is at the top of that bloc’s concerns. Mr. Netanyahu isn’t eager to form a power-sharing agreement with Mr. Eisenkot if he sees a path to a full term in office. So deadlock is what I suspect we’re going to get until a new election is called.

哈莱维:10月7日之后,任何成员不承认哈马斯为敌人的以色列政府,没有任何政党能够参与。以色列犹太公众不会接受。这不是种族主义问题,尽管自哈马斯大屠杀以来,反阿拉伯情绪确实蔓延了。

Halevi: After Oct. 7, no party can sit in an Israeli government whose members don’t recognize Hamas as an enemy. The Israeli Jewish public will not accept it. This is not about racism, though certainly anti-Arab sentiment has spread since the Hamas massacre.

谢因德林:所有阿拉伯政党领袖都谴责了10月7日的一切——他们以各种可能的方式谴责了恐怖主义,唯独没有作出以色列犹太复国主义政治领袖所要求的、主要用于将其排除在外的那种隐喻性声明。别担心——当他们想让阿拉伯政党进来时,总会找到办法。如果他们想把以色列境内的阿拉伯巴勒斯坦政党拒之门外,什么都无法满足他们。

Scheindlin: All of the Arab party leaders have condemned everything about Oct. 7 — they have condemned terror in all possible ways exceptg a metaphorical declaration that Israel’s Zionist political leaders are demanding, mostly to exclude them. Don’t worry — when they want the Arab parties in, they’ll find a way. If they want to keep Arab Palestinian parties in Israel out, nothing will satisfy them.

布图:巴勒斯坦人不想成为实施种族灭绝、种族清洗、支持占领及随之而来的定居者恐怖主义的政府一部分。巴勒斯坦领导的政党是呼吁所有人享有平等与正义的政党。历届以色列政府都寻求维持犹太至上主义。

Buttu: Palestinians do not want to be part of a government that carries out genocide, ethnic cleansing and which supports the occupation, and with it the settler terrorism. The Palestinian-led parties are parties that are calling for equality and justice for all. All Israeli governments have sought to maintain Jewish supremacy.

斯蒂芬斯:好吧,对于一个被如此不准确地指控为“种族隔离政权”的国家来说,以色列阿拉伯人以创纪录的数量出来投票,这实在令人惊讶。

Stephens: Well, for an “apartheid regime,” as Israel is so inaccurately accused of being, it’s remarkable that Israeli Arabs turned out to vote in record numbers.

沃金:你们认为,将巴勒斯坦领导的政党排除在联合政府之外,会对以色列民主的性质说明什么?

Wakin: What do you think the exclusion of Palestinian-led parties from a coalition would say about the nature of Israeli democracy?

谢因德林:以色列的民主从一开始就是局部的、模糊的。部分原因是其不愿厘清宗教与国家的关系或最终边界,但很大程度上是因为抗拒巴勒斯坦人的平等——无论是作为公民,还是后来被占领下的巴勒斯坦人。试图使其投票失去合法性(通过利库德集团声称的“停止窃选”)或将其排除在组建联盟之外,是企图仅凭选举来宣称民主、同时侵蚀这一过程意义的最新表现。

Scheindlin: Democracy in Israel has been partial and ambiguous from the start. That’s partly due to a reluctance to clarify religion and state relations or final borders, but very much due to resistance to equality for Palestinians — either as citizens, or later, those under occupation. The effort to delegitimize their vote (via Likud claims of “stop the steal”) or exclude them from coalition-building is the latest manifestation of efforts to claim democracy via elections alone, while eroding the meaning of that process.

布图:对巴勒斯坦人领导的政党的排斥表明,以色列是一个建立在种族隔离之上的种族主义国家。你能想象任何其他自称民主的地方对20%的人口说“你们的投票不算数”吗?但这就是以色列。

Buttu: The exclusion of Palestinian-led parties says that Israel is a racist state founded on apartheid. Can you imagine any other place that claims to be a democracy saying to 20 percent of the population, “Your vote does not count”? But this is Israel.

巴勒斯坦人领导的政党寻求的是简单的事情:(1)停止拆除我们的房屋;(2)最终解决政府一直视而不见的有组织犯罪团伙问题;(3)结束内塔尼亚胡及其政府所进行的种族煽动,以及已经提出并通过的数十项种族主义立法。

The Palestinian-led parties are seeking simple things: (1) a halt to the demolition of our homes; (2) finally the addressing of the issue of organized crime rings to which the government has turned a blind eye; (3) an end to the race-baiting that Netanyahu and his government have engaged in as well as the scores of racist pieces of legislation that have been introduced and passed.

哈莱维:然而我们有拉姆党——联合阿拉伯名单党——于2021年加入纳夫塔利·贝内特领导的政府的先例。10月7日提高了门槛:以色列犹太人需要基本的保证,即他们在治理以色列方面的潜在阿拉伯伙伴接受该国拥有自卫抵御激进伊斯兰主义权利这一前提。

Halevi: And yet we have the precedent of Raam, the United Arab List party, participating in the government headed by Naftali Bennett in 2021. Oct. 7 has set the bar higher: Israeli Jews need basic reassurance that their potential Arab partners in governing Israel accept the premise that the country has the right to defend itself against radical Islamism.

瓦金:虽然这是一场涉及许多政党的选举,但在某些方面它归结为对两个人的公投。约西、布雷特——加迪·艾森科特是比雅明·内塔尼亚胡更有说服力的替代人选吗?他为何未能成功?

Wakin: While this is an election involving many parties, in some ways it came down to a referendum on two men. Yossi, Bret — was Gadi Eisenkot a compelling alternative to Benjamin Netanyahu? Why did he fall short?

哈勒维:在纸面上,他是内塔尼亚胡的理想替代人选:第一位有实力的、家族根基在阿拉伯世界的犹太裔(Mizrahi)总理候选人、前武装部队总参谋长、在加沙失去了一个儿子的失独父亲。但他缺乏政治经验,而且以色列人往往对退伍后过早进入政治体制的前将领保持警惕。内塔尼亚胡成功地将他刻画成了一个不成功的军事指挥官——我认为这是虚假的——并且在面对以色列的敌人时会犹豫不决。

Halevi: On paper, he was an ideal alternative to Netanyahu: The first serious Mizrahi — a Jew with family roots in the Arab world — candidate for prime minister, a former chief of staff of the armed forces, a bereaved father who lost a son in Gaza. But he lacks political experience, and Israelis tend to be wary of ex-generals who enter the political system too soon after leaving the army. Mr. Netanyahu succeeded in portraying him — falsely, I believe — as an unsuccessful military commander who would be irresolute against Israel’s enemies.

斯蒂芬斯:政治学中的一个老生常谈是,你不能仅仅依靠个人履历来参选。以色列政治中的另一个老生常谈是,永远不要低估比比。他是一位极其老练的政治家,尽管他经历了各种灾难——尤其是10月7日的事件——但他也取得了一些显著的成功。以色列在很大程度上重新树立了其令人生畏的地区军事声誉。尽管经历了三年的战争,以色列的经济增长仍然是世界上最强劲的之一。

Stephens: It’s a truism in politics that you can’t run on biography alone. It’s also a truism in Israeli politics never to count Bibi out. He’s an exceptionally skilled politician who, for all of the disasters over which he’s presided — Oct. 7 above all — has also presided over some notable successes. Israel has largely re-established its regional reputation for military fearsomeness. Israel’s economic growth, despite three years of war, is one of the strongest in the world.

他与唐纳德·特朗普有着密切的个人关系,尽管这对许多人来说可能令人反感,但这对于以色列的安全至关重要,至少在未来两年内是这样。

He has a close personal relationship with Donald Trump, which, distasteful as it may be to many people, is vital to Israel’s security, at least for the next two years.

瓦金:在各党派寻找组建联合政府途径的未来几天和几周里,你具体在关注什么?

Wakin: What specifically are you watching in the coming days and weeks as the parties search for a way to form a coalition?

哈勒维:我希望“联合阿拉伯名单”(Raam)领袖曼苏尔·阿巴斯能够发表至关重要的声明,将哈马斯定性为恐怖政权,他此前在向犹太公众伸出橄榄枝方面已经走得很远。如果他这样做,我的感觉是反对党将再次接受他作为联合政府的伙伴。如果这没有发生,艾森科特先生可能别无选择,只能与内塔尼亚胡先生协商组建联合政府,反对党将在其中要求通过一项法案,将超正统派犹太人征召入伍,并结束对威胁以色列经济长期稳定的超正统派社区的大规模补贴。

Halevi: I’m hoping that Mansour Abbas, the leader of Raam, who has already gone so far in reaching out to the Jewish public, will make the essential statement labeling Hamas as a terrorist regime. If he does so, my sense is that the opposition parties will accept him once again as a coalition partner. If that doesn’t happen, Mr. Eisenkot may have no choice but to negotiate a joint government with Mr. Netanyahu, in which the opposition will demand a bill to draft the ultra-Orthodox into the military and end the vast subsidies for the ultra-Orthodox community that are threatening the long-term stability of the Israeli economy.

沙因德林:我们这些致力于自由民主原则的人,正热切期盼反对派阵营的主要政治人物邀请一个阿拉伯政党加入执政联盟,或者退而求其次,在外部对其予以支持。周三曾举行过游行示威——尽管规模不大——要求实现这一点,也有相关的请愿活动。但我们知道这希望渺茫。更有可能的是,我会寻找已知阵营中的阵前倒戈者,或者组建少数派政府的选择。但首先,总统艾萨克·赫尔佐格必须授权某人组建政府,而这个人很有可能是内塔尼亚胡先生。

Scheindlin: Those of us who are committed to liberal democratic principles are longing for the leading politicians of the opposition bloc to invite an Arab party into the coalition or, second best, support it from the outside. There were demonstrations — albeit small — on Wednesday demanding this, and petitions. But we know it’s a long shot. More likely, I’ll look for defections from the known blocs or options for a minority government. But first, President Isaac Herzog has to tap someone to form a government, and it could well be Mr. Netanyahu.

斯蒂芬斯:以色列最好的政府一直都是民族团结政府:1967年六日战争期间、20世纪80年代中期经济危机期间,以及本世纪初第二次起义期间。我预计这次不会出现这种情况,除非可能出于一个原因:赫尔佐格总统向内塔尼亚胡先生全面特赦,作为与艾森科特先生达成权力分享协议的交换条件。

Stephens: The best Israeli governments have been national unity governments: in 1967 during the Six-Day War, in the mid-1980s during the economic crisis, at the beginning of this century during the second intifada. I don’t envision that happening this time, except perhaps for one reason: President Herzog extends a full pardon to Mr. Netanyahu in exchange for a power-sharing deal with Mr. Eisenkot.

布图:我将拭目以待,看看这场抹黑投票的反巴勒斯坦运动究竟会走多远,有哪些人在支持它,又有哪些人没有支持。作为一名住在海法的巴勒斯坦人,我每天都要面对种族主义。我已经习惯了我的存在和身份遭到质疑。在最近的一项民意调查中,大约三分之一的以色列犹太人表示,拥有以色列国籍的阿拉伯人不应该享有投票权。令人震惊的不仅仅是这个数字:而是这个问题居然会被提出来。

Buttu: I will be watching to see just how far this anti-Palestinian campaign of trying to discredit the vote goes and who is supporting it, and who is not. As a Palestinian living in Haifa, I face racism on a daily basis. I have grown used to having my very existence and identity challenged. In a recent poll, roughly a third of Jewish Israelis said that Arabs with Israeli citizenship should not have the right to vote. What’s shocking isn’t just the figure: It’s that the question was asked in the first place.

沃金:约西刚才提到,重新举行大选将有利于内塔尼亚胡阵营,因为境外选民不会再返回国内。除此之外,内塔尼亚胡先生——或者反对派——还会从重新大选中获得什么好处(如果有的话)?

Wakin: Yossi mentioned earlier that new elections would benefit the Netanyahu camp because the out-of-country voters would not be making another trip back. How else would Mr. Netanyahu — or the opposition — benefit from new elections, if at all?

哈勒维:反对派激发了巨大的活力。多年来,我们从未见过这种程度的乐观情绪。内塔尼亚胡已经证明了他无法被撼动,这一事实将极大地打击士气,并很可能会影响反对派动员其公众的能力。

Halevi: The opposition generated tremendous energy. We haven’t seen this level of optimism for many years. The fact that Netanyahu has proved that he can’t be dislodged will be deeply demoralizing, and will likely affect the ability of the opposition to mobilize its public.

沙因德利:我们不知道有多少回归者实际投了票,也不知道他们支持哪一方。如果我们举行新的选举,阿拉伯人的投票率肯定会更低。

Scheindlin: We don’t know how many returnees actually voted or which side they supported. If we have new elections, Arab turnout will surely be lower.

斯蒂芬斯:“乱局,我亲爱的小伙子,乱局。”这句广为流感的话通常被归功于20世纪中期的英国首相哈罗德·麦克米伦,它本意是用来形容政客们最害怕的事情。对内塔尼亚胡先生而言,这却是他最期盼的事情——危机能给他一个机会,把舆论对话转向对自己有利的方向。他认为自己一生的使命就是促成德黑兰政权的倒台,在接下来的几个月里,他将竭尽全力促成此事,并且很可能会得到以色列公众的广泛支持。如果他成功了,他可能会以巨大优势赢得另一个执政授权。

Stephens: “Events, my dear boy, events.”The line, widely attributed to Harold Macmillan, the midcentury British prime minister, was supposed to describe what politicians most fear. For Mr. Netanyahu it’s what he most wants — crises that give him a chance to change the conversation in his favor. He thinks his life’s mission is to bring about the fall of the regime in Tehran, and he is going to do everything in his power over the next few months to make that happen, probably with the broad backing of the Israeli public. If he succeeds, he could win another mandate by a wide margin.

瓦金:达利亚、约西、戴安娜——你们怎么看伊朗的局势?有迹象表明,美国和以色列可能已经在为美国期中选举后对伊朗发动进一步袭击做准备。如果谈判仍在进行中,这种行动将如何——哪怕有一点点——影响谈判?

Wakin: Dahlia, Yossi, Diana — what do you think of the situation with Iran? There are indications that the United States and Israel might already be making preparations for further attacks on Iran after the U.S. midterms. How — if at all — would that action impact negotiations if they are still underway?

沙因德利:内塔尼亚胡先生倾向于抓住在任的每一天不放,如果战争有机会转移人们的视线或拖延执政联盟谈判,他就能从中获益。我并不是说这就是他会发动战争的原因,尽管许多以色列人肯定会这么认为。

Scheindlin: Mr. Netanyahu prefers to cling to every possible day in office, and if there’s a chance that a war would distract or delay coalition negotiations, he would gain. I don’t want to claim that’s the reason he would start a war, though many Israelis would certainly believe this.

哈勒维:内塔尼亚胡先生腐蚀了政治体制,分裂了我们的社会,并且对该国历史上最大的灾难没有承担任何责任。但这一点必须承认:他一直领导着阻止伊朗拥有核武器的国际运动。无论谁当上首相,与伊朗的对抗都将继续。10月7日开始的是伊朗与以色列之间的战争。这场战争还没有结束。

Halevi: Mr. Netanyahu has corrupted the political system, divided our society and taken no responsibility for the greatest disaster in the country’s history. But this much needs to be acknowledged: He has consistently led the international campaign to stop Iran from going nuclear. No matter who becomes prime minister, the confrontation with Iran will continue. What began on Oct. 7 was the Iranian-Israeli war. That war is not over.

斯蒂芬斯:德黑兰、耶路撒冷和华盛顿(在特朗普领导下)没有多少共同点,也许除了这一点:战争与外交并非对立面。它们是互补的。特朗普政府现在似乎设想的是一场旨在改变伊朗谈判方式的、短暂而密集的打击行动。到目前为止,这并未成功,而且我也不确定它未来的效果会如何。我认为,如果存在对德黑兰政权造成持久且可能不可逆转的破坏的合理机会,以色列已准备好进行一场更持久的军事行动。

Stephens: There isn’t much that Tehran, Jerusalem and Washington (under Trump) agree on, except maybe for this: War and diplomacy aren’t opposites. They are complements. What the Trump administration now seems to envisage is a short campaign of intense strikes intended to change Iran’s approach to negotiations. So far that hasn’t succeeded, and I’m not sure how effective it will be going forward. Israel, I think, is prepared for a longer military campaign if there’s a reasonable chance of doing lasting, possibly irreversible damage to the Tehran regime.

布图:内塔尼亚胡先生的政治生涯(尤其是这次选举)是以无休止的战争这一理念为前提的。无休止的战争让他得以掌权,尽管这极其清楚地表明他正是这些战争的煽动者。简而言之,他放火,然后把灭火所需的水卖给以色列人。因此,他会试图挑起另一场战争,以增加摆脱他的难度。我们看过这部电影;我们知道结局。

Buttu: Mr. Netanyahu’s political career (and in particular this election) is premised on the idea of forever wars. Forever wars keep him in power even though it is abundantly clear that he is the instigator of these wars. In short, he starts the fire and sells Israelis the water needed to put out the fire. So he will try to start another war to make it more difficult to get rid of him. We’ve seen this movie; we know the ending.

哈勒维:戴安娜对以色列对抗伊朗的军事需求的蔑视——伊朗是一个正在走向核武器化并已向我们的生存宣战的政权——本身就说明了为什么许多以色列犹太人对将阿拉伯政党纳入执政联盟持谨慎态度。在我与以色列阿拉伯政治领袖的交谈中,很明显,以色列采取的任何军事行动都不会被他们接受。

Halevi: Diana’s dismissal of Israel’s need to militarily confront Iran, a nuclearizing regime that has declared war against our existence, is itself an indication of why many Israeli Jews are wary of including Arab parties in the coalition. In conversations I’ve had with Arab Israeli political leaders, it was clear that there is no military action on Israel’s part that would be acceptable to them.

布图:我们也有生存担忧。我们的担忧是真实的,就在你们眼前实时上演。我们的土地被蚕食,我们每天都听到关于种族清洗的承诺,定居者在恐怖化我们的生活,议会议员们呼吁将我们抹去。这不是理论上的;这是现实。

Buttu: We have existential concerns, too. Ours are real and being played out in real time before our very eyes as you watch. Our land has been eaten up, we are hearing daily promises about ethnic cleansing, settlers are terrorizing our lives and members of the Knesset are calling for our erasure. This isn’t theoretical; it is real.

哈勒维:完全正确。但是,通过让我们确信巴勒斯坦民族运动的目标仍然是摧毁任何边界内的犹太国家,从而疏离甚至是以色列的犹太自由派,并不会改变犹太人的态度。

Halevi: Absolutely. But alienating even Israeli Jewish liberals by convincing us that the goal of the Palestinian national movement remains the destruction of a Jewish state in any borders is not going to change Jewish attitudes.

布图:说服以色列犹太人不是我的工作。选择权在他们手中:要么是内塔尼亚胡先生,要么是克服他们的种族主义。我猜他们会选择内塔尼亚胡先生。

Buttu: It isn’t my job to convince Jewish Israelis. The choice is theirs: Mr. Netanyahu or getting over their racism. I suspect they will choose Mr. Netanyahu.

哈勒维:许多犹太公众投票反对了内塔尼亚胡先生。把我们所有人都描绘成种族主义者,无助于推动以色列社会内部的共存,也无助于推动以色列人和巴勒斯坦人之间的和平。

Halevi: Much of the Jewish public voted against Mr. Netanyahu. Portraying us all as racists doesn’t advance the cause of coexistence within Israeli society or peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

施因德林:为什么我们在以色列还要区分犹太人选票和阿拉伯人选票?在任何一个力求民主的国家里,这都是不可接受的。

Scheindlin: Why are we even distinguishing between Jewish and Arab votes in Israel? That shouldn’t be acceptable in any country striving for democracy.

我认为布雷特关于以色列人已准备好与伊朗进行长期战争的评论,忽略了公众对战争能在今年春天实现其目标的信心呈断崖式下跌,也忽略了仅仅五周内对生活的巨大扰乱——更不用说人员伤亡和财产损失——这对每一位以色列公民来说都是极其痛苦的,此外还有加沙持续的战争,以及如果情况不改变,约旦河西岸一触即发的战争。我猜,以色列犹太人在开始时肯定会支持它,但不会开出一张空白支票。沃金:这一切政治进程对以色列在世界上的地位意味着什么?

I think Bret’s comment about Israelis being prepared for a longer-term war with Iran leaves out the precipitous decline in public trust that the war could achieve its goals this spring and the massive disruption to life over just five weeks — not to mention damage and loss of life — that were deeply traumatic for every Israeli citizen, in addition to ongoing war in Gaza and imminent war in the West Bank if conditions don’t change. Jewish Israelis will certainly support it at the start, I guess, but not with a blank check. Wakin: What will this whole political process mean for Israel’s place in the world?

施因德林:在高投票率选举结束后的那一刻,以色列曾受到国际观察人士的好评。但如果不改变政策,以色列在西方盟友甚至美国心中的地位将继续下降——就像近年来美国民意调查中的急剧下降一样。

Scheindlin: Israel enjoyed kind words from international observers in the moment after its high-turnout election. But Israel’s position among Western allies and even the United States will continue to decline — like the sharp decline in U.S. opinion surveys over recent years — without a change of policy.

布图:我希望人们真正审视所有政党(包括两个由巴勒斯坦人领导的政党)所拥护的立场。当他们这样做时,他们就会看到,除了这两个政党(目前拥有19个席位)之外,反映以色列社会的以色列政治家们都信仰犹太人至上主义;他们支持种族灭绝、种族清洗、占领、土地掠夺和一个双轨制系统。这是需要面对的事情——而且它是能够被面对的。

Buttu: I hope that people truly examine the positions that are being espoused by all of the political parties, including the two Palestinian-led parties. When they do, they will see that with the exception of those two parties (now with 19 seats), Israeli politicians, reflecting Israeli society, believe in the idea of Jewish supremacy; they support genocide, ethnic cleansing, occupation, land theft and a two-tiered system. This is something that needs to be confronted — and it can.

哈莱维:反对派与内塔尼亚胡先生组建团结政府,是有助于防止以色列陷入孤立的有力途径。这意味着政府将致力于遏制定居者暴力、放弃现政府吞并约旦河西岸的目标,并终止对以色列民主制度的攻击。我担心的是如何巩固世界各地友邦继续捍卫我们的决心。他们需要我们在道德上具有公信力。

Halevi: A unity government between the opposition and Mr. Netanyahu is a compelling way to help forestall the isolation of Israel. That would mean a government committed to reining in settler violence, forgoing the current government’s goal of annexing the West Bank and ending the assault on Israel’s democratic institutions. My concern is shoring up the resolve of our friends around the world to continue to defend us. They need us to be morally credible.

斯蒂芬斯:有一种迷思,认为以色列过去在国际上享有地位,但不知怎么在过去几十年里消散了。真相是,自1948年以来,以色列一直在艰难的环境下为生存而战,做它认为正确的事,而不在乎是否受欢迎。这次选举的终极真相是,各阶层的以色列人,包括其阿拉伯公民,都以创纪录的数字投票,因为他们关心自己国家的未来。这值得钦佩,即使选举结果似乎不是本小组任何成员——抑或大多数以色列人自己——所喜欢的。

Stephens: There’s a myth that Israel used to have standing in the world but it somehow dissipated in the last several decades. The truth is that Israel has been fighting for its life, against formidable odds since 1948 by doing what it thought was right irrespective of whether it was popular. The ultimate truth about this election is that Israelis of all backgrounds, including its Arab citizens, voted in record numbers because they care about the future of their state. That’s something to admire, even if the result is nothing anyone on this panel — or, for that matter, most of Israel itself — seems to like.

迪亚娜·布图是律师,曾任巴解组织谈判顾问。约西·克莱因·哈莱维是沙洛姆·哈特曼研究所高级研究员,著有《致我的巴勒斯坦邻居》。达莉亚·谢因德林是民意专家、政治策略师兼《国土报》高级分析师。

Diana Buttu is a lawyer and former adviser to P.L.O. negotiators. Yossi Klein Halevi is a senior fellow of the Shalom Hartman Institute and author of “Letters to My Palestinian Neighbor.”Dahlia Scheindlin is a public opinion expert, political strategist and senior analyst at the Haaretz newspaper.

来源照片由阿米尔·列维、克里斯·麦格拉斯和Keystone/Hulton Archive提供,经盖蒂图片社授权。

Source photographs by Amir Levy and Chris McGrath and Keystone/Hulton Archive, via Getty Images.

布雷特·斯蒂芬斯是《纽约时报》观点专栏作家,撰写外交政策、国内政治和文化议题。

Bret Stephens is an Opinion columnist for The Times, writing about foreign policy, domestic politics and cultural issues.

丹尼尔·J·瓦金在《纽约时报》担任记者和编辑已逾二十年。他是《独腿男和其他纽约街区故事》的作者。@danwakin

Daniel J. Wakin has been a reporter and editor at The Times for more than two decades. He is the author of “The Man With the Sawed-Off Leg and Other Tales of a New York City Block.” @danwakin

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