以色列议会阿拉伯联合名单党议员奥费尔·卡西夫表示，该联盟可能会建议由反对党“未来党”领袖加迪·艾森科特受命组建政府，以阻止即将卸任的总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡再次组阁。
Ofer Cassif, a member of the Israeli Knesset from the Arab Joint List, said the alliance would likely recommend that opposition Yashar party leader Gadi Eisenkot be tasked with forming a government to prevent outgoing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from forming another one.
他说，该联盟还将与其他反对党合作，替换议会议长阿米尔·奥哈纳。
He said the alliance would also work with other opposition parties to replace Knesset Speaker Amir Ohana.
卡西夫在接受阿纳多卢通讯社采访时表示，联合名单党愿意与以色列反对党合作，但发现对方几乎没有合作意愿。
In an interview with Anadolu, Cassif said the Joint List was open to working with Israeli opposition parties but had seen little willingness on their part to cooperate.
“主要问题在于，不幸的是，反对派内部的许多人物持有种族主义观点。他们拒绝与阿拉伯公民及其代表进行任何形式的合作，”卡西夫说。
“The main problem is that, unfortunately, many figures within the opposition hold racist views. They reject any form of cooperation with Arab citizens and their representatives,” Cassif said.
“当然，我不想一概而论。这并不适用于反对派中的每一个人，但不幸的是，这适用于其中许多人，”他补充道。
“Of course, I don’t want to generalize. This doesn’t apply to everyone in the opposition, but unfortunately it applies to many of them,” he added.
“他们试图破坏任何合作，并完全拒绝建立一个依赖阿拉伯选民选票的联盟的想法。这是核心问题，”他说。
“They seek to undermine any cooperation and completely reject the idea of building a coalition that relies on the votes of Arab voters. That is the central issue,” he said.
“但我希望，并且确实相信，艾森科特最终会意识到，对以色列人和整个地区而言，最大的危险来自内塔尼亚胡本人及其法西斯盟友。
“But I hope, and indeed believe, that Eisenkot will eventually realize that the greatest danger, both to Israelis and to the region as a whole, comes from Netanyahu himself and his fascist allies.
“当其他党派意识到这一点时，他们就会明白，除了合作推翻现任政府之外别无选择。这并不一定意味着要在许多问题上达成一致。我们联合名单党完全清楚，下一届政府不会合我们的意，将与我们观点和信念相去甚远，”卡西夫说。
“When the other parties realize this, they will understand that they have no choice but to cooperate to bring down the current government. That does not necessarily mean agreeing on many issues. We in the Joint List are fully aware that the next government will not be to our liking and will be very far from our views and beliefs,” Cassif said.
“尽管如此，我们知道目前的主要敌人是内塔尼亚胡及其亲信，我们必须尽一切努力将他赶下台。”周三早些时候，以色列中央选举委员会认证了10月27日议会选举的最终结果。15名成员投了赞成票，2票反对，14票弃权。此前公布的席位分配保持不变。
“Still, we know that the main enemy right now is Netanyahu and his cronies, and we must do everything we can to remove him from power.”Earlier Wednesday, Israel’s Central Elections Committee certified the final results of the Oct. 27 Knesset elections. Fifteen members voted in favor, two voted against and 14 abstained. The previously announced seat allocation remained unchanged.
内塔尼亚胡阵营赢得53席，以色列反对派阵营赢得48席，阿拉伯政党名单赢得19席，其中联合名单党11席，联合阿拉伯名单党（又称拉阿姆党）8席。在拥有120个席位的议会中，两个阵营均未获得所需的61席多数。
Netanyahu’s bloc won 53 seats, compared with 48 for the Israeli opposition bloc and 19 for the Arab lists, including 11 for the Joint List and eight for the United Arab List, also known as Ra’am. Neither bloc secured the 61 seats needed for a majority in the 120-seat Knesset.
以色列反对派和阿拉伯政党名单合计拥有足够席位组建政府，但反对派中有相当一部分拒绝与阿拉伯政党建立伙伴关系或合作。
The Israeli opposition and the Arab lists together have enough seats to form a government, but significant parts of the opposition reject a partnership or cooperation with the Arab parties.
总统艾萨克·赫尔佐格定于周三收到官方选举结果后，开始与议会各党派进行磋商。
President Isaac Herzog was scheduled to begin consultations with parliamentary factions Wednesday after receiving the official election results.
当被问及由艾森科特领导、依靠阿拉伯政党外部支持的少数派政府是否可能时，卡西夫表示：“差不多是这样。我认为距离那一步还有很长的路要走。看起来我们将在两天后，也就是周四，向总统推荐由他委托艾森科特组建政府。”“我们还有两天时间讨论此事，但这似乎是我们正在走的方向。同样明确的是，我们将与其他反对党一起更换议会议长。”他补充道。
Asked about the possibility of an Eisenkot-led minority government with outside support from the Arab parties, Cassif said: “Something like that. I think there is still a long way to go before we get to that stage. It looks like we will recommend to the president that he task Eisenkot with forming the government in two days, on Thursday.”“We still have two days to discuss it, but that seems to be the direction we are taking. It is also clear that we will join other opposition parties in replacing the Knesset speaker,” he added.
“我希望我们能成功，因为现任议长阿米尔·奥哈纳和其他人一样，在过去四年中表现得更像是内塔尼亚胡和执政联盟的代表，或者说是仆人，而本应反过来才对。他并没有真正代表议会。他代表政府对抗议会，仿佛议会对他怀有敌意。”“我们必须换掉他，而且议会中有多数席位可以做到这一点。问题在于，我认为议长、内塔尼亚胡和其他法西斯分子会试图阻止这件事。”卡西夫说。
“I hope we succeed, because the current speaker, Amir Ohana, along with others, has acted over the past four years more like a representative, or perhaps a servant, of Netanyahu and the governing coalition, when it should have been the other way around. He did not really represent the Knesset. He represented the government against the Knesset, as if the Knesset were hostile to him.”“We have to replace him, and there is a parliamentary majority to do so. The problem is that I think the speaker, Netanyahu and other fascists will try to stop it,” Cassif said.
“那样的话，我认为我们将不得不诉诸最高法院。法院很可能会支持我们的努力，确认我们拥有取代他的合法性与权力，然后我们就会这么做。”卡西夫表示，在走到那一步之前还有几个步骤，并且“联合名单”预计会与下一届政府产生许多分歧。他将内塔尼亚胡及其盟友称为对以色列、巴勒斯坦人和整个地区的“最大危险”，并表示该联盟致力于将他们赶下台。
“In that case, I think we will have to go to the Supreme Court. The court will likely back our efforts and confirm that we have the legitimacy and authority to replace him, and then we will do so.”Cassif said there were several steps before that point and that the Joint List expected many disagreements with the next government. He described Netanyahu and his allies as the “greatest danger” to Israel, the Palestinians and the wider region, and said the alliance was committed to removing them from power.
在被问及阿拉伯裔选民投票率高的问题时，卡西夫表示，以色列的阿拉伯公民感到，在一个他称之为“法西斯”的政府执政四年之后，他们的生存本身都受到了威胁，尤其是在2023年10月以来的三年里。
Asked about high Arab turnout, Cassif said Arab citizens of Israel felt that their very existence was at stake after four years under a government he described as “fascist,” particularly in the three years since October 2023.
他指出了以色列在加沙和约旦河西岸的“暴行”，以及以色列国内日益增长的法西斯主义和对阿拉伯公民的迫害。他说，阿拉伯公民占以色列人口的20%。
He pointed to Israeli “atrocities” in Gaza and the West Bank, as well as growing fascism within Israel and the persecution of Arab citizens, who he said make up 20% of the population.
卡西夫表示，试图取消“联合名单”和“联合阿拉伯名单”的资格，以及取消他本人和萨米·阿布·谢哈德的候选人资格，这些举动促使阿拉伯公民前去投票。他还提到了“系统性的”房屋拆除。
Cassif said attempts to disqualify the Joint List and the United Arab List, as well as his own candidacy and that of Sami Abu Shehadeh, had driven Arab citizens to vote. He also cited “systematic” home demolitions.
“他们意识到自己的生命、他们的生存本身都受到了威胁。另一方面，‘联合名单’重新组建了。我们终于成功宣布了这一消息，而这正是以色列绝大多数阿拉伯民众一直在等待的。这给了巴勒斯坦人一线希望。”他说。
“They realized that their lives, their very existence, were under threat. On the other hand, there was the reestablishment of the Joint List. We finally managed to announce it, which was what the vast majority of the Arab public in Israel had been waiting for. That gave Palestinians a glimmer of hope,” he said.
“所以你可以说，这本质上是恐惧与希望的混合，或者如果你愿意的话，也可以说是悲观与乐观的混合。人们恐惧又一个会实施种族灭绝的法西斯主义、种族主义政府，同时也希望我们能够通过‘联合名单’取得成功，而事实正是如此。”卡西夫指责内塔尼亚胡及其利库德集团通过散布未经证实的外国干预指控，试图使选举结果失去合法性。
“So you could say it was essentially a mixture of fear and hope, or pessimism and optimism if you prefer. There was fear of another fascist, racist government that would commit genocide, and hope that we could succeed through the Joint List, which is what happened.”Cassif accused Netanyahu and his Likud party of trying to delegitimize the election results by promoting unsubstantiated claims of foreign interference.
“我们知道，每当有机会取代一个独裁者——即便是像匈牙利等地那样通过选举上台的独裁者——他都会竭尽所能地质疑选举结果的合法性，”他说。
“We know that whenever there is a chance to replace a dictator, even one who came to power through elections, as happens in Hungary and elsewhere, he will do everything he can to question the legitimacy of the election results,” he said.
内塔尼亚胡和其他右翼领导人质疑选举结果，并要求推迟公布。选举委员会于周三继续公布了最终结果，并将其移交给赫尔佐格。
Netanyahu and other right-wing leaders questioned the results and called for their announcement to be delayed. The elections committee proceeded with announcing the final results Wednesday and handed them to Herzog.
右翼领导人指责阿拉伯政党接受卡塔尔的资金以动员选民。多哈和各政党均否认了这些指控。
Right-wing leaders accused Arab parties of receiving funding from Qatar to mobilize voters. Doha and the parties denied the allegations.
“我们在2022年的选举中看到了完全相同的情况。投票日之前，利库德集团感觉到自己可能会输，便立即开始策划质疑结果的合法性，”卡西夫说。
“We saw exactly the same thing in the 2022 elections. Before polling day, Likud sensed it might lose and immediately began planning to challenge the legitimacy of the results,” Cassif said.
“利库德集团大肆宣扬有关存在操纵投票计划的说法，尤其针对阿拉伯人。在选举日当天，他们不断声称存在严重的舞弊嫌疑，但一意识到自己获胜就立刻停止了，”卡西夫说。他表示，利库德集团数周来一直在为类似情况做准备，而他本人几个月来一直在就此发出警告。他说，选举次日，当投票率明显非常高时，该党仍在继续宣扬“虚假说法”。
“Likud promoted claims, particularly targeting Arabs, that there were plans to rig the vote. On election day itself, they kept saying there were serious suspicions of fraud, but they stopped as soon as they realized they had won.”Cassif said Likud had been planning for a similar scenario for weeks and that he had personally warned about it for months. He said the party continued to promote “false claims” the day after the election, when it became clear that turnout had been very high.
他说，警方和安全机构，包括辛贝特，曾与内塔尼亚胡及其盟友串通，但他们最终不得不承认没有发生任何舞弊或操纵行为。
He said that the police and security agencies, including the Shin Bet, had colluded with Netanyahu and his allies, but they ultimately had to acknowledge that no fraud or manipulation had occurred.
“这并不能改变一个事实：利库德集团以其法西斯式的做法，试图质疑结果的合法性，”他说。“而且他们为什么总是把矛头对准巴勒斯坦选民？因为把他们当作替罪羊很容易。”卡西夫说，他担心内塔尼亚胡可能会为了保住职位而再次对伊朗发动战争。
“That does not change the fact that Likud, with its fascist approach, sought to question the legitimacy of the results,” he said. “And why do they always focus on Palestinian voters? Because it is easy to use them as scapegoats.”Cassif said he feared Netanyahu could launch another war against Iran to stay in office.
“首先，我对任何地方、任何时间发生的任何形式的战争都深感担忧。风险非常严重，”他说。
“First of all, I am deeply concerned about any kind of war, anywhere and at any time. The risks are very serious,” he said.
“他们俩都有发动战争的个人利益，不管对手是谁，”他说，指的是内塔尼亚胡和美国总统唐纳德·特朗普。“伊朗在这里只是一个随意的选择。本可以是任何其他国家。”“我希望这种事不会发生，特别是考虑到以色列和美国国内都有反对声音。也许这是第一次，以色列的中间派政党甚至一些右翼政党都意识到，对伊朗发动战争只符合内塔尼亚胡留任的利益，对以色列的利益毫无裨益，”卡西夫说。
“They both have a personal interest in launching a war, regardless of who is on the other side,” he said, referring to Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump. “Iran is just an arbitrary choice here. It could have been any other country.”“I hope nothing like this happens, especially given the domestic opposition in both Israel and the US. Perhaps for the first time, even centrist parties and some right-wing parties in Israel realize that launching a war against Iran serves only Netanyahu’s interest in staying in power and does nothing for Israel’s interests,” Cassif said.
“这就是为什么我坚信民族团结政府极不可能成立。我希望我是对的。当然，我也可能是错的。”
“That is why I firmly believe a national unity government is highly unlikely. I hope I am right. Of course, I could be wrong.”